Midbike Race Class Question

[Midbike Racer]

Question for you all.
I am interested in knowing what your opinion is regarding class structure.
If there were classes for midbikes only, what would you like to see as far as classes and why?

[The Nutty Professor]

Question for you all.
I am interested in knowing what your opinion is regarding class structure.
If there were classes for midbikes only, what would you like to see as far as classes and why?

110cc to 125 add 50cc 2 smokes in there. 125cc to 141cc (? maybe just 138cc) 85cc 2 smoke. 141cc to unlimited and a max of 125cc on the 2 smoke. twocents

[swheels]

I would like stock production class 110cc 4ts no motor mods but any type of suspension mod allowed .Superstock motor and suspension modds no changing of the cc's size though.Formula xtreme 125cc to 138cc 4t's.Superbike class 140cc to 150cc suspension and motor motor mods allowed.thumbsup2

[stuntnx7]

theres gonna have to be a couple of classes like stock and modified, and stock would have limited modifications like pipes and taking off plastics and stuff like that and the modified class would be built motors and such with a CC limit this way every1 could go and have a class to get in..... bcuz if you build any of the motors up they will pretty much be the same as every1 buys from the same places and gets the same stuff

[redryderaus]

I like the idea of the production class. It allows people to get out on the track without a big investment in time and $$$. The suspension mods could be made as bolt on kits for a relatively low price. A proddy class also makes for a great way to learn how to race, as everyone is on the same machine.

Outside of that, Nutty's suggested capacity based classes make sense to me. Specify carby only (no EFI) and no programmable ignitions, no alcohol fuels or NOS (for safety reasons). The simpler you make the rules the easier it is to police.

Then you have an F1 class. Open modding, anything goes, 4stroke only max 150cc . Again no alcohol or NOS. I'm not in favour of any rules that would stifle open thinking as I think these bikes are an ideal way for budding tuners to learn the art without having to sell body parts on ebay. thumbsup2

Cheers,

red

[redryderaus]

A production class is exactly that. As the bike comes from the manufacturer. No mods except for safety. That is the reason for allowing upgraded suspension, as people have found the stock suspension dangerous at high cornering speeds. Make a specified suspension "package" available from several suppliers to prevent a monopoly forcing prices up. Gearing is open to allow for different tracks.

But no performance mods to the engine. No pipe, carby or ignition work (except for sparkplug). No porting, cams, piston, compression, etc.

All bolts/plugs that could release fluid to be drilled and wired, brake reservoirs securely taped. This is a standard safety requirement for motorcycle racing as leaking engine oil/coolant and brake fluid plays havoc with traction for everyone on the track.

Cheers,

red

[The Nutty Professor]

After my first post I thought about something else. Chasis. Part of the "stock" definition would mean a chasis from the chinese factory "as is". Maybe allow some bracing but that's it. It won't be hard to spot a One-Off chassis it would "Just look to good". This might be way way overboard but the AMA had a claiming rule. Anyone could claim a winning bike at least once per-season, but they had to pay fair market...Never mind you'd get a bunch of squids looking to buy into a fast ride without doing the homework wave_finger Great for big time racing very stupid at this level. Keep it rollin folks he wants to know.

[schofell84]

i like the idea with keeping the open class under 150cc's. going huge seems to defeat the purpose of riding a smaller bike and it keeps people with more limited budgets more in the game.

[redryderaus]

Drilling and wiring bolts involves drilling a small hole (1.5mm is typical) through the head of the bolt. A piece of wire (SS mig welding wire works well) is run through the hole, through a hole on a fixed point and the ends tightly twisted together. This wire means that even if vibration loosens the bolt it cannot unscrew and release oil/coolant/fluid/etc.

Here's one I prepared earlier bluelaugh It's the oil drain plug on my 125cc motor.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x131/redryderaus/bolt_wiring.jpg

Cheers,

red

[swheels]

I almost forgot an upgrade in tires would definitly be allowed.I although some of the stock workewd great for me.I've one that turned out to be a real brick.And theres no way of telling which is which until your riding on them.Think if you level the playing field it would make for some great racing.thumbsup2Other than that after awhile people will get tired of watching that one guy or two just walk away with the win almost every race.I love to mix it up! the only way to race.thumbsup2

[Midbike Racer]

Good ideas everyone. I like them.
Keep them coming.

[Midbike Racer]

BUMP...

Lots of members have not voiced their opinions.
What do you all think as far as midbike classes you would like to run in. dunno

[The Nutty Professor]

I think I'm going to start with the 125. Mostly because 125 gave me the tools to work with and I think it's the easiest for people to get too. With their 110 they can add a little extra fundage to pump up the CC's and they're in. twocents I was talking with Swheels yesterday about the same thing. He had a great idea. I was thinking about dyno-ing the bikes to keep them in a class, but a dyno is expensive. Swheels brought up the idea of a radar gun on the track as the gauge. We will have a general idea of how fast a certain displacement engine should be with the right gearing for the track. If someone blows way out of the speed rating you know they're HOT. I was thinking gps transponder's. Then the speed can be taken anywhere on the track and they double as timing and scoring units? The first idea was Swheels and I wouldn't have thought of the second without the first. Come on peeps Mid Biker needs some feedback Poke12 cowboy

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i think we need our own set of rules
for just the mids
110 at the bottom, stock and modded
125 next, stock and modded
then above 125, (141,146,150gpx...)
allow suspension mods to all but conform to a height/weight spec
cant have 10lb carbon fibre bikes out there

[Mr.jon]

what about 114s?

[BOBCASEBEER]

Keep the 2 and 4 strokes apart
1) 110 4 stroke class. Allow mods but keep the engine cc size to 110 and running on gas.
2) 125 4 stroke class. Allow mods but keep the engine cc size to 125 and running on gas.
3) 150 4 stroke class. Allow mods but keep the engine cc size to 150 and running on gas.
4) 50cc 2 stroke class. Allow mods but keep the engine cc size to 50 and running on gas.
5) 85cc 2 stroke class. Allow mods but keep the engine cc size to 85 and running on gas.
6) 125cc 2 stroke class. Allow mods but keep the engine cc size to 125 and running on gas.
7) Open exhibition Class. This class is for the Mad Dogs gear heads. For the people that just need to live outside of the box. Allow all mods to frame and motor. Open to 4 and 2 stroke motors on any type of fuel ( NOS , Alcohol, Race Gas, Jet Fuel , Electrical motors....) Limits to the cc 's are that the motor needs to fit in a midbike. Riders should have to prove that they can Pilot their beast around the Track saftly before being allowed to race it. The nice thing about the open Exhibition Class is it give the group a place to scrap it out while letting everyone else enjoy the weekend racing to.
cheers11

[Mr.jon]

114sssssss?

[Midbike Racer]

What is your opinion on classes if we could have only 4 midbike classes.
We can always add more but for a start...

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ok then, forget the 2stroke entirely
most Mids are 4 stroke and all new ones are
up to 110 class
up to 125 class
up to 150 class
above 150 class
so 114 race with the 125s

[The Nutty Professor]

i think we need our own set of rules
for just the mids
110 at the bottom, stock and modded
125 next, stock and modded
then above 125, (141,146,150gpx...)
allow suspension mods to all but conform to a height/weight spec
cant have 10lb carbon fibre bikes out there

Hey what's wrong with being a weight weenie (Term from road bikes meaning a guy who will spend a $1000 to lose 3grams of weight moon1) I like Blitz's structure simple with one addition all motors have to be in the spirit of mids meaning only horizontal motors. Water cooled OK but that's it.

[Mr.jon]

man the 114s with the 125s, arg i need to get me a 125

[Midbike Racer]

man the 114s with the 125s, arg i need to get me a 125
What would be more fair?
The 110's running with the 114's or the 114's running with the 125's?
Just wondering.

[Midbike Racer]

What would be more fair?
The 110's running with the 114's or the 114's running with the 125's?
Just wondering.

up to 114 class
up to 125 class
up to 150 class
above 150 class

dunno

[The Nutty Professor]

The only problem I see is the massaged, flowed, high comp 114's blowing stock 110's into the weeds. That class should be entry level only dunno twocents

[Midbike Racer]

The only problem I see is the massaged, flowed, high comp 114's blowing stock 110's into the weeds. That class should be entry level only dunno twocents

up to 110 class
up to 114 class
up to 125 class
up to 150 class
above 150 class

dunno

Do the 114's justify their own class in your opinion?

[The Nutty Professor]

Mid Biker I don't know enough about the power difference between the two to have a valid opinion. Swheels what ya think? Is a worked on 114 equal to a 125? Or is the stock 125 going have a hard time too? I guess that last question doesn't matter. Few people leave 125's stock.

[swheels]

Personally i think the cc's of the same amount should be racing with each other.So it will make for closer more fun racing.Atleast the average joe knows he stands a chance at winning without feeling the pressure of have to go out and buy some parts.I'd rather lose a to a more skilled rider.Than to lose to someone whos half as good but has almost 2x hp.If it was up to me and i had the money.Everbody would get hand out motors for the season price would vary depending on the and cc's class.That way you get to really see the who's who and the what's what's.At the end of the season they turn the motors in.BTW the motors would be sealed so how to eliminate tampering.I bet you'll find out that alot those fast guys won't be so fast then.LOL

[swheels]

Mid Biker I don't know enough about the power difference between the two to have a valid opinion. Swheels what ya think? Is a worked on 114 equal to a 125? Or is the stock 125 going have a hard time too? I guess that last question doesn't matter. Few people leave 125's stock.I've heard that a truley built 114cc can jack a stock 125cc.I know a tagawa 114 built will KILL most mild mod 125cc.I'm affraid of those tagawa motors.LOL May one never cross my path,unless i'm buying it.LOLbluelaughbluelaugh

[The Nutty Professor]

Personally i think the cc's of the same amount should be racing with each other.So it will make for closer more fun racing.Atleast the average joe knows he stands a chance at winning without feeling the pressure of have to go out and buy some parts.I'd rather lose a to a more skilled rider.Than to lose to someone whos half as good but has almost 2x hp.If it was up to me and i had the money.Everbody would get hand out motors for the season price would vary depending on the and cc's class.That way you get to really see the who's who and the what's what's.At the end of the season they turn the motors in.BTW the motors would be sealed so how to eliminate tampering.I bet you'll find out that alot those fast guys won't be so fast then.LOL

This coming for The Mad Doctor? "S" you love to play inside these toys to much to run in a sealed motor class bluelaugh bluelaugh One of your bikes might be but you've have a lab bike ready to run in an open class just because cowboy

[swheels]

I love to get all i can out of them without having to spend alot.So that most people who wish to get into racing or make there bikes perform better can do the same.I feel i'm only at my best when i'm in a good ol' down home scrap.Most of all i love competition.thumbsup2thumbsup2.I'm that idiot that deosn't know when he's beat.bluelaugh

[kevin@holeshotz]

From observing chucks league along with other leagues i have raced with you wanna keep you classes simple. 5 different classes for bikes only 40cc apart is insane. Keep it to 2-3 classes, that is all you need. I would say either:

up to 125
up to 170

or

up to 110
up to 125
up to 170


The 150-170 group are really all in the same. A 170 isnt gonna be somuch faster then a 150. As for the 110s and 114s, f@#! em. Its racing. 114s can compete with 125s fi they are built correctly. The 110s shoudl be nothing more then a beginners class.

[schofell84]

if it were just midbikes, you should have a stock class, one that allows boltons, and one unlimited thats regulated to a certain cc. but the real world is that your going to be racing against pit bikes and such so a common ground should be found ... with possibly two seperations in each, stock and or bolt ons, and then open (again limited to cc)

70cc and under (for crf/xr50's and 70's).

71 - 114 (a high comp big bore for midbikes along with the stockers, 88's and 114's are also popular for hot rodded 50's)

115-150 (covers 125 pit bikes and 125, 138, 140, and 150 bolt in engines).

unlimited (to 200cc's for good measure)

i think that has the bases pretty well covered. anyone have input as to where 65 and 85 2smokers would fit in? and maybe even slipping in a 125 to unlimited?

[Midbike Racer]

From observing chucks league along with other leagues i have raced with you wanna keep you classes simple. 5 different classes for bikes only 40cc apart is insane. Keep it to 2-3 classes, that is all you need. I would say either:

up to 125
up to 170

or

up to 110
up to 125
up to 170


The 150-170 group are really all in the same. A 170 isnt gonna be somuch faster then a 150. As for the 110s and 114s, f@#! em. Its racing. 114s can compete with 125s fi they are built correctly. The 110s shoudl be nothing more then a beginners class.
I have ran a few race leagues and ran over 30 classes per day.
IMO, it is confusing and it waters down the racing.
I agree that it needs to be kept simple also.
Also IMO, 4-5 classes is cool because there are no weight restrictions to further divide up classes.

up to 110 class
up to 114 class
up to 125 class
up to 150 class
above 150 class

dunno

Who knows...

[Midbike Racer]

if it were just midbikes, you should have a stock class, one that allows boltons, and one unlimited thats regulated to a certain cc. but the real world is that your going to be racing against pit bikes and such so a common ground should be found ...
Actually, the events I have planned, there will be nothing but midbikes in the midbike classes.
From an event promoters standpoint, I understand having other machines in the classes like pitbikes and so on because racing fees are needed to continue doing events but I am looking to promote anything other thank midbikes and possibly PB's.

[Mr.jon]

were are these events

[JAGspeed@XMR]

I think having our own race organization would great. I have to say I agree with Kevin about keeping it simple. Since most of the mids come with 110cc motors. There should be a 110cc stock motor class mainly for beginner racers. Next a 110cc mod class that way people could move up and mod there bike without getting new engines. Next I would say a 141 mod class, I think a 125 and 110 are to close in cc's to have a separate class. and a 125 could easily run with a 141 if build right, also most of the guys who do a 125 swap, mod there motors. 141cc would give enough room for big bore kits. Next would be a 142cc to 170cc class for the guys who can afford it. Keep in mind you would also have classes for kids. I would hate to been embarrassed by a fast 12 yr old LOL. You could always add classes and let other types of motors in. Like 50cc 2strokes with 110cc, 65cc 2stroke with 141cc, and 85cc 2strokes with the 170cc bikes.
So any ideas on how to get this started!!

[Midbike Racer]

were are these events

I have a few locations on the East coast to choose from.
Las Vegas on the West coast.

[kevin@holeshotz]

Im hearing talk of 85cc two strokes. You are allowing motards with you too?

[Mr.jon]

I have a few locations on the East coast to choose from.
Las Vegas on the West coast.

i am in nc, east coast, do you have aim?

[Midbike Racer]

You are allowing motards with you too?
No.
Midbikes only in the midbike classes.
Nomatter how big or small, midbike racing needs to start somewhere.

[Midbike Racer]

i am in nc, east coast, do you have aim?
No I don't.
Can you drop me a PM?

[Midbike Racer]

Well, after there were some midbikes out there in Virginia, now what are you thinking about classes.

[The Nutty Professor]

Sounded like a stew in the race. Every displacement and the racing was still good. Maybe we need a amatuer, expert, pro-class for now without worrying about displacement. That is way my twocents !!!! Will that work dunno but we have a little time to experiment. What do you guys who went to VIR think?

[doug@xmr]

Nutty I must have had temporary loss of vision I would'nt have started a seperate thread if I had seen this one sorrycrazy_smilie?!?! I think there both on the same track though

[redryderaus]

Sounded like a stew in the race. Every displacement and the racing was still good. Maybe we need a amatuer, expert, pro-class for now without worrying about displacement. That is way my twocents !!!! Will that work dunno but we have a little time to experiment. What do you guys who went to VIR think?

The issue I've experienced with trying to grade by rider ability is having an experienced but unknown (to the organisers) come along, get put into Amateur and sweeping the field. It's even harder to do it that way than by cc/mod level. Then you have to have some process by which a rider is advanced through the grades which can be an administrative headache.

I actually had this happen to me in an RC aircraft comp. They didn't know me so they gave me a beginners handicap. I won by so much it wasn't funny. I refused the trophy and insisted it go to the rightful winner.

Cheers,

red ausflag

[Pinto93]

i think we need our own set of rules
for just the mids
110 at the bottom, stock and modded
125 next, stock and modded
then above 125, (141,146,150gpx...)
allow suspension mods to all but conform to a height/weight spec
cant have 10lb carbon fibre bikes out there

I think that Blitz's first idea is the best. This way when sum1 goes and buys a new bike he can start racing it. Then as he up grades he can move up in class. After he buys a new engine he goes back to a stock class, then moves up as he upgrades. But this does have a flaw to it. As already stated most ppl with the 125 motors already have them upgraded. Only a few including myself have a stock 125.(I plan on upgrades, just not right now). So after thinking about it maybe we should do....


up to 110
up to 125
over 125 open class

[Midbike Racer]

up to 110 class
up to 114 class
up to 125 class
up to 150 class
above 150 class

I am leaning towards something like this above.

I like no weight restrictions and I like not dividing it up by skill.
IMO, something like this is a good start.

I am working as we speak rules and specs for the...

Midbike Nation Racing Association
speechless33

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well i lost to higher cc motors but they were better riders than me too
i beat a few 110s and the riders were newer too i think
i could have had a built 146, usd's, and all and still lost every race to a good rider on a built 110
so i like the cc's division
110s
125s and up
good riders need a challenge?
ride your 110 in the up class

[redryderaus]

A click of the mouse button and the MNRA is born. cheers11 Midbike Racer

Cheers,

red

[stuntnx7]

another way that you could do it if every1 would stay honest and run as fast as they could after a day of practice is just put every1 together by times.....faster times that are close together run each other and slower times run against each other....simple

[Luigi@XMR]

well i lost to higher cc motors but they were better riders than me too
i beat a few 110s and the riders were newer too i think
i could have had a built 146, usd's, and all and still lost every race to a good rider on a built 110
so i like the cc's division
110s
125s and up
good riders need a challenge?
ride your 110 in the up class

I totally agree with you.thumbsup2 It would be nice to have a 110cc class I could race in, but in the end all it matters is if there is enough people to make different classes, we might be lucky if we get a midbike class.

[Midbike Racer]

we might be lucky if we get a midbike class.
Lucky?
You already have some.
I am just deciding on what they are.
Hopefully people will work with me and the MNRA to make for better events.
If not, the MNRA will host events alone.speechless33

What are your thoughts on these classes?

up to 110 class
up to 114 class
up to 125 class
up to 150 class
above 150 class

[Pinto93]

u really want to start out with that many classes?
seems ok to me, but only if we have enough ppl.

[Midbike Racer]

u really want to start out with that many classes?
seems ok to me, but only if we have enough ppl.
That is what I am thinking about.
It needs to start somewhere and if that means 2 classes, that is cool too.
This thread is just for discussion to find different opinions.
I understand that would be overkill for a USMGP event like last weekend.
Also, stand alone MNRA events will be different than say if we ran classes at an event with PB classes who could be sanctioned by the USMGP or another body.

[Luigi@XMR]

Lucky?
You already have some.
I am just deciding on what they are.
Hopefully people will work with me and the MNRA to make for better events.
If not, the MNRA will host events alone.speechless33

What are your thoughts on these classes?

up to 110 class
up to 114 class
up to 125 class
up to 150 class
above 150 class

It would be awesome to have a 110cc class that I could run in so i didnt have to chase the bigbores.thumbsup2 If enough people show up for all of them classes it would be great. How do u feel about a 110 wanting to run in a 114/125 class?? (just an idea)

[Midbike Racer]

It would be awesome to have a 110cc class that I could run in so i didnt have to chase the bigbores.thumbsup2 If enough people show up for all of them classes it would be great. How do u feel about a 110 wanting to run in a 114/125 class?? (just an idea)
The way I have always run ALL my classes is people can move up in cc's but not down so if a 110 wants to run in the open 150 class. that is fine. I also have one race fee and that is good for as many classes as you want to run in. so for example, if you had a 110cc and we used these classes, you could run in 5 classes for x amount of dollars.speechless33

[Midbike Racer]

The way I have always run ALL my classes is people can move up in cc's but not down so if a 110 wants to run in the open 150 class. that is fine. I also have one race fee and that is good for as many classes as you want to run in. so for example, if you had a 110cc and we used these classes, you could run in 5 classes for x amount of dollars.speechless33
remember, if an events financial success is determined by racer fees, it will be a failure... in the long run.

[Luigi@XMR]

It sounds fair to me. "you gotta pay to play the game!!"thumbsup2

[doug@xmr]

Heeyy Luigiiii, we run a 110 class and up to 150 I think going bigger is over kill I can barely keep the 141 hooked

[Luigi@XMR]

Heeyy Luigiiii, we run a 110 class and up to 150 I think going bigger is over kill I can barely keep the 141 hooked

I think you're right.thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

gonna roll with doug on this one
id allow for the new 150 gpx but thats it
any more motor isnt really gonna help much, except make you fall
plus you gotta be pretty hard core over 150 and prolly better off at the drag track
im takin mine to 146 and thats it
you cant please everybody, but i think 2 classes at best till we get bigger, then re-evaluate
110's - crucial for starters
125's and up

[Pinto93]

gonna roll with doug on this one
id allow for the new 150 gpx but thats it
any more motor isnt really gonna help much, except make you fall
plus you gotta be pretty hard core over 150 and prolly better off at the drag track
im takin mine to 146 and thats it
you cant please everybody, but i think 2 classes at best till we get bigger, then re-evaluate
110's - crucial for starters
125's and up


It's got my vote!

[Luigi@XMR]

It's got my vote!

and mine!!!thumbsup2

[The Nutty Professor]

Same here. I plan on a second bike after I sort this one. That one will probably be a stock spec.

[redryderaus]

you cant please everybody, but i think 2 classes at best till we get bigger, then re-evaluate
110's - crucial for starters
125's and up

Exactly, Blitz. Those two classes are good for me as a starting point as well.

Cheers,

red ausflag

[Midbike Racer]

What are we talking about here?
Classes at what event?
Are we talking about 2 classes where?

[The Nutty Professor]

What are we talking about here?
Classes at what event?
Are we talking about 2 classes where?

Mid Biker I think they're still on subject just jumping from statement further back in the thread.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

we are talking about the classes we should use if we get to attend a race event, any event
it really all depends on how many people show up
vir was a one class event
kinda uneven but ok with me

[Midbike Racer]

we are talking about the classes we should use if we get to attend a race event, any event
it really all depends on how many people show up
vir was a one class event
kinda uneven but ok with me
OK. Gotcha Blitz.
I guess I am always talking about a Midbike Nation Racing Association sanctioned event.
I understand that for example, if Chuck is nice enough to add a midbike class at a USPGP event, 3,4 or 5 are not really needed.
What I am always referring to but maybe have not been clear enough is an event where there is maybe 4 or so midbike classes with good cash payouts.
Maybe even a few PB classes also with cash payouts.
I think nomatter what we are talking about though, the winners are the racers!
rock2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ok well if its your own event then you can have more classes
we dont mind
it still depends on the turn out

[redryderaus]

As I stated before you can run all classes in the one race, but the results are class based. For example, the first 3 125&up riders are 1st, 2nd, 3rd in 125up. The first 3 110 riders are 1st, 2nd, 3rd in 110. Just because you have more than one class doesn't mean you have to run separate races for each class. So if you only have a small entry you can still have interesting racing with as many bikes out there as possible.

Cheers,

red ausflag

[Midbike Racer]

As I stated before you can run all classes in the one race, but the results are class based. For example, the first 3 125&up riders are 1st, 2nd, 3rd in 125up. The first 3 110 riders are 1st, 2nd, 3rd in 110. Just because you have more than one class doesn't mean you have to run separate races for each class. So if you only have a small entry you can still have interesting racing with as many bikes out there as possible.

Cheers,

red ausflag
BINGO!
Exactly red.
thumbsup2

[The Nutty Professor]

Would you do it like endurance racing where they have a class ranking then a overall ranking? Eventhough you're on a 110 that doesn't mean you can't take first in class and first in the race?

[Midbike Racer]

Would you do it like endurance racing where they have a class ranking then a overall ranking? Eventhough you're on a 110 that doesn't mean you can't take first in class and first in the race?
I usually did one of two things.
If there is a low turnout, I run everyone together and there are nurerous classes running in the same heat so the 3, 4 & 5 finishers could actually be the 1,2 & 3 finishers in their class.
The other way becuase of the fact that I allow racers to race in as many classes as they can run in for the one racing fee is that I run all the classes because most will all be running in them all. This gives way more racing bang for your buck. So, a guy on a 110 could run in 4 classes. He is getting more bang for the buch then a guy on a 150 because all he could run in is the 150 class or maybe the open class if there was one.
I also have higher payouts in the higher cc clases to make up for this.
I am confusing the issue???
bluelaugh

[swheels]

Heeyy Luigiiii, we run a 110 class and up to 150 I think going bigger is over kill I can barely keep the 141 hookedYou need to put a after market tire on the 141.Then you'll be able to ride that bike to the fullest.


Me personally i'll run anything as long as i get to race with other people on a track.If make it they will come.

[redryderaus]

I see what you're getting at, Midbike Racer.

Cheers,

red

[stuntnx7]

hey red i always wondered why you said cheers but now i see your in australia.....how is it over there

[redryderaus]

"I love a sunburnt country, a land of sweeping plains
Of rugged mountain ranges, of drought and flooding rain" -Dorothy Mckellar

Can you tell I love my country? :) Australia is a great place to live except for the twofold drought of rain and midbikes! thumbsup2

Cheers,

red ausflag

[The Nutty Professor]

I usually did one of two things.
If there is a low turnout, I run everyone together and there are nurerous classes running in the same heat so the 3, 4 & 5 finishers could actually be the 1,2 & 3 finishers in their class.
The other way becuase of the fact that I allow racers to race in as many classes as they can run in for the one racing fee is that I run all the classes because most will all be running in them all. This gives way more racing bang for your buck. So, a guy on a 110 could run in 4 classes. He is getting more bang for the buch then a guy on a 150 because all he could run in is the 150 class or maybe the open class if there was one.
I also have higher payouts in the higher cc clases to make up for this.
I am confusing the issue???
bluelaugh

No I'm just always confused.

[Midbike Racer]

I am working with a few other people on an event in So. California.
It is a mini motorsports event where there will be pocketbikes, microkarts, mini motartd & scooters.
I am able to have midbikes represented and have 2 classes sanctioned by the MNRA.
Midbike Nation Racing Association.
After talking about so many class options in this thread, what do you all feel would be the best 2 classes to represent midbikes in this event?

[The Nutty Professor]

Stock and then modified with all displacements in modified.

[swheels]

Stock and then modified with all displacements in modified.That sounds good.Because thock won't be as fast of pace.It will give even the new people to racing a chance.You will allow the stock class to run better tires and suspension?I think it will be more safe that way.

[Midbike Racer]

Stock and then modified with all displacements in modified.
I like that...
Stock allowing suspension mods & aftermarket tires.
Modified pretty much allowing everything.

Opinions?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

yes i agree with that, i was saying it to myself as i was reading it lol