Midbike Class @ VIR - June 20 &21, 2009

[Midbike Racer]

June 20 & 21, 2009
Midbike Racing At VIRginia International Raceway.

Midbike Nation is pleased to announce that it will be sponsoring the midbike class at this USMGP sanctioned event. This will be a midbike ONLY class.... nothing but midbikes! Midbike Nation will be providing trophies for the top three finishers.

This is the official VIR Midbike Class thread.
I am sure there will be many question so this is the place for all of them.

Midbike Nation is responsible for creating the class specs so as soon as they are ready, they will be posted here along with all the event info.

BTW, I will also be making the 4,500+ mile round trip so I would also like to plan on some type of Midbike Nation members PARTY on Friday night, the 19th at VIR.

I am looking forward to meeting many of the MN members!

rock2

[The Nutty Professor]

Anybody have a schedule yet for the other events that weekend? I think it's a AMA weekend there too :dunno: If no one has it or anything else I'll see what I can dig up.

[X7rocks]

oh man...i so want to make it to VIR this year!!! it will be great meeting all the MBN members and to see how there bikes have made it the past year for the races and to test our skill level with one another and maybe share a few beers(im underage....owell :D)

[cutlasskel]

Right on! Now the mids have earned their own slot. Good job guys!

How about a roll call?
Team Demonspeed (Az) will be there racing pockets, mids, and minimotards.
(At least 2 Jr riders and 2 Sr riders in most classes). rock2

I know if we are coming all the way from the wild west, the eastern boys will be making a huge showing, right?Poke12

[The Nutty Professor]

Nope on AMA it's in august banghead Maybe there's something else.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

im in
depending on the classes i may bring two bikes
im also down for a party cool_smilie
somebody should start lookin for a spot for that to happen, cause the hotel rooms wont work and we cant just go to a bar cause of the lil ones
hey maybe we can just show up at the track fri night and do it then
its so nice there tho i see them stopping that
nutty this may be a job for the law

[Midbike Racer]

im also down for a party cool_smilie
somebody should start lookin for a spot for that to happen, cause the hotel rooms wont work and we cant just go to a bar cause of the lil ones
hey maybe we can just show up at the track fri night and do it then
its so nice there tho i see them stopping that
nutty this may be a job for the law
I was thinking trackside in the camping area because that is where me and my crew will be crashing after the long roadtrip and cuz I have read some others had a good time doing that last year. :dunno:

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ok what about prices?
will it cost extra to bring both bikes and ride its class?
i might have to do the camp out thing this year too
my boss informed me today that ive moved up to corporate sponsorship, hes agreed to pay for the gallon of gas ill be racing on moon1

[Midbike Racer]

ok what about prices?
will it cost extra to bring both bikes and ride its class?
i might have to do the camp out thing this year too
my boss informed me today that ive moved up to corporate sponsorship, hes agreed to pay for the gallon of gas ill be racing on moon1

I will be posting all the event info soon but am waiting for Chuck with the USMGP to update his info and get the online registration up.
This will be a USMGP sanctioned event with Midbike Nation sponsoring the midbike class.
Here is a little info but but all info wil be posted as soon as it is finalized...

USMGP Series
Virginia International Raceway
Alton ,Virginia
June 20th & 21st 2009
Two Full Days of competitive Racing with some of the best racers in North America!

This event is being held on one of the top Karting Facilities in the United States.
If you have never raced there you must attend this event.
The track is technical and can guarantee the fun we all look for on a mini!

Gates Open at 7:00 AM
$ 120.00 for two days of racing Gate fee not included.(insurance)
Registration will open soon!

Gate Fee : $10.00 for all spectators per day

Gate fees: $10.00 for riders per day

Registration open 7:30-10:00

Walk around Tech Inspection : 8:00-11:00

[cutlasskel]

If it is like all other USMGP events, it is the same entry fee regardless of how many classes you run. Otherwise we couldn't afford to race in like 6 classes.

[Midbike Racer]

If it is like all other USMGP events, it is the same entry fee regardless of how many classes you run. Otherwise we couldn't afford to race in like 6 classes.
Thanks!. I posted all that info and didn't even answer Blitz.Inc.$'s question. banghead

I have a call into Chuck to make sure but I think you're right.
That would be a whole lot of $$$ if it were per class.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

if we get to pick the class, i think that depending on the turn out, we have two or three classes for the mids
if we do two classes id say, 110cc stock and not stock (114,125,140,146,150), or if alot of stock bikes arent there then we can class by motor to be decided on like maybe 114-140, and 146-150
whatcha think

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

oh yeah and maybe a seniors class for those 'older' guys rolleye0010

[The Nutty Professor]

moon1moon1moon1moon1

[cutlasskel]

Aren't you all "older guys" compared to my riders? bluelaugh

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

oh so you wanna go east vs west? boxing11

[swheels]

if we get to pick the class, i think that depending on the turn out, we have two or three classes for the mids
if we do two classes id say, 110cc stock and not stock (114,125,140,146,150), or if alot of stock bikes arent there then we can class by motor to be decided on like maybe 114-140, and 146-150
whatcha thinkWe'll be lucky to get 2 classes going.I remember the last day of racing we got cut short.LOL And it wasn't do to the accident.So many people showed up that they barely had enough time to finish everything.So i'm thinking their might be even more people showing up.Well if the economy don't get to their pockets first.thinking_smilie

oh yeah and maybe a seniors class for those 'older' guys rolleye0010OLD who's OLD????? I'm in my prime! uuhhhhh what was i ranting about??????? Oh yeah OLD who's OLD????? AHHH who am i kidding........My 6pack is turning into a keg and my go get 'em additude.Has turned into maybe i'll get them tommorow or the next day.speechless33

[Midbike Racer]

if we get to pick the class, i think that depending on the turn out, we have two or three classes for the mids
if we do two classes id say, 110cc stock and not stock (114,125,140,146,150), or if alot of stock bikes arent there then we can class by motor to be decided on like maybe 114-140, and 146-150
whatcha think
I think that is a good idea BUT we only get ONE class.
That is all there is room for at this event. One midbike only class.

I am working on the specs for the class right now and was leaning towards...
4 stroke 150cc limit
2 stroke 80cc limit

This leaves it pretty wide open for all the midbikes I think.
OK... let me have it! popcorn_smilie

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

S, the difference this time is that we are comming in with a reputation as a legit class, where last time we were more of a side show
so we should get a fair amount of time, no matter who shows up
ok, thats what it was last time, oh well its good

[cutlasskel]

We'll be lucky to get 2 classes going.I remember the last day of racing we got cut short.LOL And it wasn't do to the accident.So many people showed up that they barely had enough time to finish everything.So i'm thinking their might be even more people showing up.Well if the economy don't get to their pockets first.thinking_smilie

OLD who's OLD????? I'm in my prime! uuhhhhh what was i ranting about??????? Oh yeah OLD who's OLD????? AHHH who am i kidding........My 6pack is turning into a keg and my go get 'em additude.Has turned into maybe i'll get them tommorow or the next day.speechless33

Yeah, but I have been doing some "unofficial negotiations" with the promoter, and we are trying to get some of the pb classes to be run as Jr/Sr and scored separately. This would eliminate (4) heat races and (2) main events from the schedule. This would free up track times since we are trying to combine the two slowest pb classes (by HP).

[The Nutty Professor]

It is what it is. We have what we have. They can all race at once and finish 1st in their class and second on the track meaning you can have two results from one race. But that might mean a lot of bikes on the track at once (Hopefully).

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

its ok, vir is wide

[swheels]

S, the difference this time is that we are comming in with a reputation as a legit class, where last time we were more of a side show
so we should get a fair amount of time, no matter who shows up
ok, thats what it was last time, oh well its goodYou know something your right.If we are paying the same amount as all the other racers to race for that weekend.Then we should get the same amount of track time.thinking_smilie Although in that year we got more track time then everybody else.LOL

[swheels]

Yeah, but I have been doing some "unofficial negotiations" with the promoter, and we are trying to get some of the pb classes to be run as Jr/Sr and scored separately. This would eliminate (4) heat races and (2) main events from the schedule. This would free up track times since we are trying to combine the two slowest pb classes (by HP).Yeah that would be cool.

I really hope a lot of mids show up. I'm up for a stock 110cc class.With suspension and tire mods allowed. I'd through a bike together for that class too.

[Midbike Racer]

This is UNOFFICIAL but here is an idea of the race schedule.
It is subject to change.


Pre Practice Riders meeting 8:30
(This is MANDATORY for all riders, crews and parents of minors!)
Open Practice by Groups in 15 minute sessions

Pocketbike
Motard/YSR/NSR(AKA-Shifters)
Midbikes
(All Welcome!)

Schedule of Events

Saturday Schedule of events

8:45-9:00 Pocketbike
9:00-9-15 Shifter bikes
9:15-9:30 Pocketbike
9:30-9:45 Shifter bikes
9:45-10:00 Pocketbikes
10:00-10:15 Shifter bikes
10:15-10:30 Pocketbikes
10:30-10:45 Shifter bikes
10:45-11:00 Pocketbikes
11:00-11:15 Shifter bikes

11:15-12:15 Lunch Break

Heat #1( 18 heats)
Junior/Senior Featherweight 6 Laps
Formula 1 - 10 Laps
Junior Production 4.2- 6 Laps
Senior Production 4.2 -6 laps
Formula 2 - 10 Laps
Junior Production 6.2 - 6 laps
Senior Production 6.2 - 6 laps
GP 85 - 10 Laps
Junior 6.2 Modified- 6 laps
Senior 6.2 Modified- 6 laps
Sumo Class- 6 Laps
Midbike 6-Laps
Thumper 125 -10 Laps
Junior Super Production - 6 Laps
Senior Super Production - 6 laps
Thumper 150 - 10 laps
Junior Open Class - 6 Laps
Senior Open Class - 6 Laps
Super Motard- 12 Laps 250cc & above Motards only.

See you on Sunday!

Sunday Schedule of Events
Registration open from 7:30-9:00
Open Practice by groups
8:00-8:15 Pocketbikes
8:15-8:30 Shifter bikes
8:30-8:45 Pocketbikes
8:45-9:00 Shifter bikes
9:00-9:15 Pocketbikes
9:15-9:30 Shifter bikes
9:30-9:45 Pocketbikes
9:45-10:00 Shifter bikes
Heat #2
Starts immed. after practice
Junior /Senior Featherweight -6 laps
Formula 1- 10 Laps
Junior Production 4.2 - 6 laps
Senior Production 4.2 - 6 laps
11:00-12:00 Lunch Break
Mandatory quiet time no engines can run during this time.

12:00 Racing starts again
Formula 2 - 10 Laps
Junior Production 6.2 - 6 laps
Senior Production 6.2 - 6 laps
GP 85 - 10 laps
Junior 6.2 Modified - 6 laps
Senior 6.2 Modified - 6 laps
Sumo Class- 6 laps
Midbikes-6 laps
Thumper 125 - 10 Laps
Junior Super Production - 6 Laps
Senior Super Production - 6 laps
Thumper 150 - 10 laps
Junior Open Class- 6 laps
Senior Open Class - 6 laps
Super Motard- 12 Laps 250cc & above Motards only.

Finals
Junior /Senior Featherweight - 6 laps
Formula 1 - 12 laps
Junior production 4.2 - 8 laps
Senior production 4.2- 8 laps
Formula 2 - 12 laps
Junior Production 6.2 - 8 laps
Senior Production 6.2- 8 laps
GP 85 - 12 laps
Junior 6.2 modified - 8 laps
Senior 6.2 modified - 8 laps
Sumo Class - 8 laps
Midbikes - 8 laps
Thumper 125 - 12 laps
Junior Super production -8 laps
Senior Super production - 10 laps
Thumper 150- 12 laps
Junior Open Class- 10 laps
Senior Open classes- 12 laps
Super Motard- 12 Laps 250cc & above Motards only.

Awards Ceremonies

[swheels]

its ok, vir is wideLOL we did kinda look like we could have used alittle more people to fill up the space.bluelaugh

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

looks like we got to wait 78 laps to race

[rene13]

I can't remember it there is a thread about what to expect during the walk around tech inspection, and if we don't have one we might need one and maybe make it a sticky so that will answer some of the racers questions about the race.twocents

Since VIR got the green light we all need to contact "Wreckreation Nation" so that we can get our exposure that is long over due. :clap:
What yall think guys and gals?thinking_smilie

[Midbike Racer]

I can't remember it there is a thread about what to expect during the walk around tech inspection, and if we don't have one we might need one and maybe make it a sticky so that will answer some of the racers questions about the race.twocents

When I get all the event info I will post it but I do know there will be a walk around tech inspection both mornings and with the midbikes, he will be looking for good welds (no cracks), catch bottles, safety wireing, no leaks and more.
When I have all the exact info, I will post it ASAP.

[SoPackedCustoms]

so is camping tack side a definite yes are we allowed to and i myself have no experience in racing but would like to is that possible

[doug@xmr]

Go rent an RV and park it trackside. That's the best way to do it in style cool_smilie We'll see everyone therethumbsup2

[SoPackedCustoms]

oh man...i so want to make it to VIR this year!!! it will be great meeting all the MBN members and to see how there bikes have made it the past year for the races and to test our skill level with one another and maybe share a few beers(im underage....owell :D)

X7 if your still interest im coming from Massachusetts i might be able to swing by and pick you up im serious too

[X7rocks]

gotta speak with my father on a plan like that,he was thinking of leavieng friday midday to leave if finances are correct to enter the track thumbsup2

[JAGspeed@XMR]

I'll be there! Ready to race. I'm sure the competition will be better that the first time. Hope to see more guys from Midbike Nation this time.
Hey Midbike Racer. They were easy on us as far as tech go's the first time because we were new, But your right they will expect us to have all the safety requirements this time. After you get the info. You should start a new thread on the subject where we can all help each other with ideas.

[SoPackedCustoms]

well what do i need to protective wear all i have is a jacket from my 1:1 bike and as far as leaning goes i need those knee pads things where can i get those

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

man what are we gonna do if 30 bikes show up, starting to sound that way
for crashing you need:
good full face helmet
leather gloves
leather race suit is the best but i wore a leather coat and pads
knee pads
elbow pads
boots, i wore my steel toes

[cutlasskel]

I can bring an extra Frank Thomas 2 piece suit (zips together to make a 1 piece) for a rider. I am a pretty small guy (5"7), and it fit well when I was about 165 (a bit loose) to about 185 (real nice).

Now that I am a bit rounder, it doesn't fit so well. :dunno:

First come, first served.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

dang chunky chickin! you got belly sliders? bluelaugh moon1
i got a 2piece zip together from C list for 20bux
has a bit of rash already, and thats right up my alley

[X7rocks]

i have a pretty nice set..hopwe it still fits

[cutlasskel]

Mmmmm.......chicken.

[Ghost Rider]

Hey cutlass are you still going to have room in your truck for another rider or 2? just wonderingthinking_smilie

[cutlasskel]

I am working several different scenarios currently....here are our options:

1. Rent my buddy's 48ft motorhome and enclosed 20ft trailer (the best option IMO)

2. Rent a big Penske truck (pretty sure I can get a discount) for the bikes / tools and pick up people and bikes as we travel across the country (we would also have a "chase" vehicle to carry passengers)

3. Caravan a few vehicles, adding as we go east.

If you can find a way to my house, I can find a way to get you to VIR. I got our entire team out there last year, so I think I can do it again.

[SoPackedCustoms]

so are we going to be confined to vir or can we take our bike and hit the street and grab a bite to eat

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

no you cant
vir is a BIG place, its a car track too
just to get out takes a few minutes
i doubt they would let you ride your bike anywhere
so, your stuck

[Midbike Racer]

Hey Midbike Racer. They were easy on us as far as tech go's the first time because we were new, But your right they will expect us to have all the safety requirements this time. After you get the info. You should start a new thread on the subject where we can all help each other with ideas.
As soon as Chuck from USMGP gets it all together, I will have it up here.
You are right, the mids did have it easier last year but this year, it is all about SAFETY 1st!

well what do i need to protective wear all i have is a jacket from my 1:1 bike and as far as leaning goes i need those knee pads things where can i get those
Same as above. As soon as I get the info, I'll post it ASAP.
I know full leathers are reccommended but moto cross style safety gear will work also but we'll wait for spacifics to be posted.

so are we going to be confined to vir or can we take our bike and hit the street and grab a bite to eat
I have no idea as to what VIR's policy is on that.
Personally, at all the events I sanction, nobody can take their machine out of the track or pit area onto a street unless it is street legal.
I will try and find out an answer for you.

[Ghost Rider]

Hey chris can we get a list of the people planning to attend this event listed in the first post please.

[cutlasskel]

Will there perhaps be an extra midbike open to race? Stock or otherwise.

I have a couple of pb racers that would like to give the mids a go, if possible.

[Nirvash#000]

this sucks im stuck in cali

[swheels]

Will there perhaps be an extra midbike open to race? Stock or otherwise.

I have a couple of pb racers that would like to give the mids a go, if possible.I'm gonna try to come with 2 bikes if possible mabey 3.But i know if the kids and the wifey don't go.I told the nutty P that we could car pool up together.So i'll have to see what he wants to do also.I mentioned to the family,well my wife i want to go alone.So i can focus more on racing and not worry about the the kids as much.Because when they come then it becomes an extravaganza.They have to have a hotel with a pool,the room has to be a suite,have to go shopping and by up a whole bunch of things that has nothing to do with me racing,food drinks,cloths,shoes and toys the list goes on.But if i leave them then i loose my navigator,camera operator and i usually send them to get lunch for everybody.LOL:dunno:

[briansX19haulsass]

anything around IL gonin down love 2 ive my 140cc tuner some good competion and me some of u guys in person that would b awesome

[Midbike Racer]

Hey chris can we get a list of the people planning to attend this event listed in the first post please.
I am not sure who exactly is attending. Things can change.
Maybe a roll call that members can add to in this thread?

Will there perhaps be an extra midbike open to race? Stock or otherwise.

I have a couple of pb racers that would like to give the mids a go, if possible.
I will have my x7 there and if Terrell doesnt race it, you are welcome to throw one of your racers on it... unless there was a 2 stroke-over 225lbs-really slow class for me to run in.bluelaugh

It is going to be a good turn out.thumbsup2

[kantellyou]

Maybe we can have something like the le mans series where we have two different classes running at the same time, we have 50ccs class and the 110cc and over classes. What you guys think? Yay or nay just an idea

[swheels]

Maybe we can have something like the le mans series where we have two different classes running at the same time, we have 50ccs class and the 110cc and over classes. What you guys think? Yay or nay just an ideaIf they have only one class then that's the way it's gonna be.Always fun coming though traffic.

Man i want to do more than just 6laps.Every heat should be atleast 8laps if they're gonna put all the mids together.

[cutlasskel]

A Le Mans style start would be cool. We did that back in the day with the pb's and one dude tripped on the rumble strip. Total face plant. I laughed so hard I couldn't concentrate for like 2 laps.

[Midbike Racer]

Maybe we can have something like the le mans series where we have two different classes running at the same time, we have 50ccs class and the 110cc and over classes. What you guys think? Yay or nay just an idea
It is a good idea and I have thought about that.
Maybe a 4 stroke up to 150cc's and a 2 stroke up to 80cc's...:dunno:


If they have only one class then that's the way it's gonna be.Always fun coming though traffic.

Man i want to do more than just 6laps.Every heat should be atleast 8laps if they're gonna put all the mids together.
I will see if we could squeeze out 8 laps.
Especially if we have only one class.

I think this is shaping up to be a very good representation of midbikes.
Nomatter what, I think the starting grid will be impressive.

[Ghost Rider]

this sucks im stuck in cali

Hey man im in SoCal too(Rancho Santa Margarita)...do you have a truck cuz i can meet up with you and if we can drive a truck to AZ , We can get a ride to VIR with midbikeracer or cutlass!

[swheels]

Here's somewhat of a roll call list.
Hey i think this time there will be more mids.It would be real interesting to have like 13 midbikes on the grid.

Let's see......
Xmr crew That's about 5.Doug your son is coming too right?
Nutty P
Blitz
Cutlasskel
Swheels
Well we know we got 9 possible 10 solid.
The thelog32 i called and told him but i'm not gonna hold my breathe.He seems to be definitely interested.
Hey i think this time there will be more mids.It would be real interesting to have like 13 midbikes on the grid.

[Midbike Racer]

Roll Call

XMR crew That's about 5.Doug your son is coming too right?
Nutty P
Blitz
Cutlasskel
Swheels
Midbike Racer

[Nirvash#000]

Hey man im in SoCal too(Rancho Santa Margarita)...do you have a truck cuz i can meet up with you and if we can drive a truck to AZ , We can get a ride to VIR with midbikeracer or cutlass!

im 14 and im in pasadena but with the races months away we can most likely plan so i gotta talk my dad into it.any ideas anyone.and i have 2 F's so grades arent to good right now banghead
but yea we have a van and dumped 2 x7s into it with room to spare
or we can try to get a truck.
and i have to get my bike race ready.
any suggestions on what to do to my x7

[swheels]

im 14 and im in pasadena but with the races months away we can most likely plan so i gotta talk my dad into it.any ideas anyone.and i have 2 F's so grades arent to good right now banghead
but yea we have a van and dumped 2 x7s into it with room to spare
or we can try to get a truck.
and i have to get my bike race ready.
any suggestions on what to do to my x7Yeah get rid of those 2 "F"s.So you can present a strong arguement to your dad on why he should let you come to VIR to race.

[Nirvash#000]

Yeah get rid of those 2 "F"s.So you can present a strong arguement to your dad on why he should let you come to VIR to race.

well i only have 2 because i get really tired i have 9 classes and i get hassled by teachers and seniors banghead
but im being moved up 2 levels of english(i read alot)ive just been getting lazy. but i have fun racing and skateboarding so i have alot on my plate but id rather have alot on my plate than nothing at all rock2

[rene13]

well i only have 2 because i get really tired i have 9 classes and i get hassled by teachers and seniors banghead
but im being moved up 2 levels of english(i read alot)ive just been getting lazy. but i have fun racing and skateboarding so i have alot on my plate but id rather have alot on my plate than nothing at all rock2

If you bring those grades up your dad would probably be more than glad to let you go. Tell him ahead of time; 'Look dad I know I have 2 F's but I can bring them up, would you consider leting me go race. This is something I very interested in and keeps me out of trouble. I promise I can do this if you back me on this, let me prove it to you.thumbsup2" Do better than he expects you to and trust me your in. Do some major sucking up. Do you chore before they have to ask. Screw those seniors, I know its hard; If you let those "I have a self image problem" kids get to you, I hate to say it but your in the same boat. Your coming down to there level. "Shake them haterz off"twocents

What subjects are you have problems with?

[Nirvash#000]

biology and english but in english im always there early and im not really sure i have an F in english but last semester i did and ive been back on the grind and i think i have a C and my teacher understands me and moved me up 2 levels so i most likely have 1 F just in biology i just dont understand it and i have a hard time beleiving all of that stuff and cant stop thinking where would it help me in life?
but when im on one of my pocketbikes or skating everything seems to come together again.

[cutlasskel]

Roll Call

XMR crew That's about 5.Doug your son is coming too right?
Nutty P
Blitz
Chaz (Punisher88)
Swheels
Midbike Racer

+ Rambler
+ little Nate.

[rene13]

biology and english but in english im always there early and im not really sure i have an F in english but last semester i did and ive been back on the grind and i think i have a C and my teacher understands me and moved me up 2 levels so i most likely have 1 F just in biology i just dont understand it and i have a hard time beleiving all of that stuff and cant stop thinking where would it help me in life?
but when im on one of my pocketbikes or skating everything seems to come together again.

What part don't you understand about biology=(bio= life, logy= study of) 99.9% is scientific fact .1 % miracle=unexplained. Some of this stuff is hard to remember, but you can do it. Use association.For example, The phases of mitosis: Interphase,Prohase, Metaphase, Anaphase, Telophase. The question is how do you know whats happening in the stage, easy.
Interphase= I for inception= begining, Prophase= P for Primary, Metaphase= M for Meet in the middle(chromosomes), Anaphase= A for abduct(pull away) chromosome pull toward the poles, Telophase= T for through slmost two.
Some of the silly things you can come up with for association will help you remember the most infotwocents


Sorry for the minor thread jack fellas. Just trying to help a fellow racer make it to the grid.thumbsup2

[Shooter]

+ Rambler
+ little Nate.

Roll Call

XMR crew That's about 5.Doug your son is coming too right?
Nutty P
Blitz
Cutlasskel
Swheels
Midbike Racer
add Shooter

[SoPackedCustoms]

Add me

[Shooter]

Roll Call

XMR crew That's about 5.Doug your son is coming too right?
Nutty P
Blitz
Cutlasskel
Swheels
Midbike Racer
Rambler
little Nate
Shooter
SoPackedCustoms

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

im tellin you man we could have 30 bikes out there

[Ghost Rider]

...31 if by some miracle i make itthumbsup2

i wonder how much it would be to rent and small uhaul truck to AZthinking_smilie

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

aint it like 30 bux a day? you only need it one day
hey just ride your bike bluelaugh

[kantellyou]

Roll Call

XMR crew That's about 5.Doug your son is coming too right?
Nutty P
Blitz
Cutlasskel
Swheels
Midbike Racer
Rambler
little Nate
Shooter
SoPackedCustoms
kantellyou

added myself to the list

[Midbike Racer]

Roll Call

XMR crew ... around 5
Nutty P
Blitz
Cutlasskel
Swheels
Midbike Racer
Rambler
Nate
Shooter
SoPackedCustoms
kantellyou

We're up to around 15! This is gonna be fun... And so will the Friday night trackside Midbike Nation party.cool_smilie

I am going to be sending the USMGP the midbike class specs soon and I think I am going to go with...
4 strokes up to 150cc's
2 strokes up to 80cc's

Pretty much anything goes.

Thoughts?

[Midbike Racer]

add Shooter
We should car pool. moon1

[SoPackedCustoms]

we should all chip in an get a midbike nation flag to represent just a thought

[Shooter]

Ummmmm........thinking_smilie
Would this be overkill for the roadtrip?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Vehicles-Trailers___84-HOLIDAY-RAMBLER-IMPERIAL-33FT-LOADED-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ320336444146QQddnZOtherQ20Vehicle sQ20Q26Q20TrailersQQddiZ2828QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRVs _Campers?hash=item320336444146&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308
It was a fun idea anyway.

[The Nutty Professor]

If I had the money I'd buy one. On that one I won't pay more than 13-14G's Dad's being retired has owned a couple and being that old motor, brakes, tires, and toilet plumbing (corrosion) will be a problem. That being said older ones are usually good deals if you don't mind doing a little bit of fix-it.

[cutlasskel]

I have also added a toy hauler to my option list for VIR. About a grand for a week. That doesn't seem too bad to me, but I need to figure out what my fuel mileage will drop to while pulling it.

http://www.toyhauler4rent.com/wst_page3.php?idx=0&file=images/106-0611_IMG.jpg&&ID2=3xGohK

Can fit (4) full size quads, so it should fit what we are bringing.

[Shooter]

Yeah........ the thing is being sold here locally for $8,900
RV sales are waaaay down as who can afford to do any kind of major travel and yet afford to buy something like this?
I'll bet this will auction for around $4,780 - $5,500 ........... if they don't pull it first.
The trek to VIR will be over 4000 miles round trip for us.......... I think the van and a trailer for the bikes will be just fine........... cheaper on gas too!

[Mybusa88]

add me and bandit

[swheels]

Roll Call


XMR crew ... around 5
Nutty P
Blitz
Cutlasskel
Swheels
Midbike Racer
Rambler
Nate
Shooter
SoPackedCustoms
kantellyou
Mybusa88
Bandit
Thelog32:75% chance LOL
Phantom08
Pretty much anything goes.

Thoughts?Who did i miss.thinking_smilie

[SoPackedCustoms]

i am really looking forward to this lol

[swheels]

Yep me too.
Man a full grid of midbikes.LOL That's a parade and a possible traffic jam at the first turn.bluelaugh I think the mids just took over.bluelaugh
Oh for a heads up i don't think they allow any alcoholic beverages on track premises.thinking_smilie

[Midbike Racer]

Oh for a heads up i don't think they allow any alcoholic beverages on track premises.thinking_smilie
Man, that would suck if we cant have a few cool beverages Friday and Saturday night trackside if we are camping out. I will call the track Monday and ask the rules for campers.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

dont ask, dont tell

[kantellyou]

a wise man once told me "its easier to say sorry then to ask for permission"...

[X7rocks]

add me....

[briansX19haulsass]

sounds like fun i would go if u guys traveled through IL if possible?

[swheels]

add me....
Yep...We all know you better be there!
You know who else is missing????? DUBS!DUBS!DUBS!DUB!
Not to put you on the spot Dubs.But of course you have to come and represent.thumbsup2

[X7rocks]

i still have months to save up and build my bike up its all good.

[SoPackedCustoms]

i have 5 months to build a track bike just waiting for my tax money to get back

[miaep3]

Add me to the list I will be heading up with kantellyou. I just got to get a few things for the bike good thing it's in June and income tax is coming in. Can't wait to see all you guys there first time for me.

[kantellyou]

Add me to the list I will be heading up with kantellyou. I just got to get a few things for the bike good thing it's in June and income tax is coming in. Can't wait to see all you guys there first time for me.

about time you registered...

[Shooter]

Roll Call


XMR crew ... around 5
Nutty P
Blitz
Cutlasskel
Swheels
Midbike Racer
Rambler
Nate
Shooter
SoPackedCustoms
kantellyou
Mybusa88
Bandit
Thelog32:75% chance LOL
Phantom08
X7rocks
miaep3



You know who else is missing????? DUBS!DUBS!DUBS!DUB!
Not to put you on the spot Dubs.But of course you have to come and represent.
It looks like we're gonna have an awesome turnout!
For everyone we have listed here now....... I sure hope 4 months down the road we're all still able to make it!
Until then....... Lookin' forward to meeting everyone at the 2009 VIR Midbike Nationals thumbsup2

[X7rocks]

can i advise everyone if you see my father DONT bring up 9/11 ...goerge bush house payments or..soemthing else...he wont shut up

[Shooter]

can i advise everyone if you see my father DONT bring up 9/11 ...goerge bush house payments or..soemthing else...he wont shut up

uhhhh.......... so what you're saying is........ if we see you we don't know you......... and just keep walking or riding the other way thinking_smilierolleye0010

[X7rocks]

im a shy person as it is...i just mean my father...hes kinda chatty...depending on his many moods

but if you do see me i can do vary much with a hello im shooter nice to meet you and then i wouldnt know what to say....

[Shooter]

I was just messin' ......... it's all good.
Besides...... it's parents we're talkin' about here........ It's like their job or something to embarrass us........
Saying that......... we should come to realize that we can't be held accountable for our parents actions, so you shouldn't have anything to worry about moon1

[X7rocks]

...yep

[Midbike Racer]

It looks like we got our roll call up to around 20. thumbsup2

[The Nutty Professor]

Now I'm moding the king MOD hahaha Mid Bike and his deuce post! moon1

[stuntnx7]

can i advise everyone if you see my father DONT bring up 9/11 ...goerge bush house payments or..soemthing else...he wont shut up



more to it than we know, sucks, and its life....thats all im gonna say bout those subjects

[X7rocks]

indeed

[The Nutty Professor]

can i advise everyone if you see my father DONT bring up 9/11 ...george bush house payments or..something else...he wont shut up

Well keep him away from me then bluelaugh I don't know which side he falls on but tell him to be ready with (Joe Friday voice) "Just the facts sir, the facts"...dun ta duh dun ta dun ta duh dun to duh dun ta dun ta dah...dun ta dah...ok enough moon1 If ya don't know you better ask somebody hahaha Man I need to open the garage door more. The coating (fumes) I'm putting on the swingarm is making me hyper for days!?

[Shooter]

Chronic complainer in da house wave_finger
Uhh.......... excuse me sir........... are you talking to me? ............... I think you have me confused with someone who really gives a ssoap_boxt
:ain't lis:Nutty-Rant


Sorry rox........ you left yourself open to that one and I just couldn't resist. LOL

[swheels]

can i advise everyone if you see my father DONT bring up 9/11 ...goerge bush house payments or..soemthing else...he wont shut upYou want have to worry about me.My oldest sons mother worked in the 2nd building on the floor where the 2nd plane hit she survived becuase she hauled ass when she saw bodies fallen through the sky when the first plane hit.

[kantellyou]

any news on how many laps? if theres gonna be two classes? and also is friday and sat open track for practice?? I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SoPackedCustoms]

so what day should we be getting there? and what are we going to do on our down time

[kantellyou]

ill be leaving thursday night and should be there friday morning or noon... get the bike out of the car and on the track asap.... and yes i said car (GTI) 2 bikes in there...

[SoPackedCustoms]

is it an open track if we get there early?

[SoPackedCustoms]

ok so map quest says from where i live to VIR it will be 700 miles and a 12 hour drive im sure i can make it in 8 what day should i leave?

[kantellyou]

if i can get my bike on the track friday i will try to get as much time on the track as possible... who knows when ill be able to do it again..

[SoPackedCustoms]

well can me just get on the track upon arrival?

[X7rocks]

i just got my ass handed to me by fellow members on MBN 0.o
owell better poeple i respect then some douchebags

my dad is a alright guy he seems more enthusiastic about the midbike now, its just he gets annoyed when poeple bring some weird subjects up "like what shooter said"
but most race days (sandy hook) he chilled

[Shooter]

X7...... I hope you know I was just messin'
My mom is the same way...... and I'm saying this in a nice way.
She gets lost in herself when trying to make conversation and becomes completely unaware that there's anyone around her that she becomes a one-sided conversation......... the complete play-by-play and then some might sum it up in a nutshell.
X7........ I can relate......... but it had taken me "years" to relax and just accept her as she is and look at things from a more positive side.
I still get pissed at people with some of the rude comments they make in reference to her.......... but that just shows me how much these "old adults" must have missed out on life in their youth.
I hope no hard feelings done bows_smilie

[The Nutty Professor]

X7...... I hope you know I was just messin'
My mom is the same way...... and I'm saying this in a nice way.
She gets lost in herself when trying to make conversation and becomes completely unaware that there's anyone around her that she becomes a one-sided conversation......... the complete play-by-play and then some might sum it up in a nutshell.
X7........ I can relate......... but it had taken me "years" to relax and just accept her as she is and look at things from a more positive side.
I still get pissed at people with some of the rude comments they make in reference to her.......... but that just shows me how much these "old adults" must have missed out on life in their youth.
I hope no hard feelings done bows_smilie

Ditto X7 my man. My mom lives in her own conversations sometimes. Me and my dad just say "Yep, ok, yeah I got it". It just sounds like your dad likes to talk to people with a little common sense and see what they have to say. Remember he's closer to my age than your's so we'll get along fine. Hell I'm old enough to be your father. Lucky you I'm not bluelaugh moon1

As for people asking about Friday I thought it said it was a open trackday.

[X7rocks]

"im old enough to be your father"

yeaaah....but alteast you could help me with some cool parts "dad" bluelaugh

and its cool im sure you can get along with my dad nutty

[SoPackedCustoms]

so when we get there is this going to cost anything at the door and stuff what are the fees if there are any

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i highly doubt there will be any riding on friday
your bike must be inspected before they let you out there plus it must be verified that you have the proper equipment
so just assume there wont be
ill really be surprised if they let us in the pits on fri

[miaep3]

as for safty goes what is it that we need to race on the track helmet what else.

[SoPackedCustoms]

FEES?

[The Nutty Professor]

USMGP Series
Virginia International Raceway
Alton ,Virginia
June 20th & 21st 2009
Two Full Days of competitive Racing with some of the best racers in North America!

This event is being held on one of the top Karting Facilities in the United States.
If you have never raced there you must attend this event.
The track is technical and can guarantee the fun we all look for on a mini!

Gates Open at 7:00 AM
$ 120.00 for two days of racing Gate fee not included.(insurance)
Registration will open soon!

Gate Fee : $10.00 for all spectators per day

Gate fees: $10.00 for riders per day

Registration open 7:30-10:00

Walk around Tech Inspection : 8:00-11:00


Fees rolleye0010 moon1

[SoPackedCustoms]

so 140 to race for two days

[swheels]

so 140 to race for two days130 for 2 days.But you will never want those 2 days to end.thumbsup2

[SoPackedCustoms]

can i race with a CR 125 in my mid ? and can i race with a crash cage around my bike

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i think the 2T limit is 80cc
crash cage is good
if you decide to test it, ill have my camera

[SoPackedCustoms]

will i be able to mount it on the bike and race

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i dont know what your skill set is
can you?

[swheels]

can i race with a CR 125 in my mid ? and can i race with a crash cage around my bikeI'd say drop it in and come on out and play.

[SoPackedCustoms]

with the cr 125 will i be able to race in the 150 class even though its a 2 stroke

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

no, the limit is 80cc for the 2T rolleye0010

[Midbike Racer]

I havn't sent in the final specs yet to the USMGP but I was planning on going with a 150cc 4 stroke and an 80cc 2 stroke limit. That is what we use out on the West coast where it seems like there is far less midbike racers.
What do you all think about fair class specs if we get ONE midbike class?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

if its only one class then run what you brung, what else can it be?
it seems like there will be too many mids there to only run one group, they will have to split us up
looks like population will determine class

[swheels]

I havn't sent in the final specs yet to the USMGP but I was planning on going with a 150cc 4 stroke and an 80cc 2 stroke limit. That is what we use out on the West coast where it seems like there is far less midbike racers.
What do you all think about fair class specs if we get ONE midbike class?Well it doesn't matter to me.Because if we all end up racing in one class but different classes within.Chances are theres gonna be alot of traffic so that can be the great equalizer.Then this will make the the more skilled riders really ride and give the underdogs a shot also.
Hell bring a 200cc i just wanna ride.thumbsup2 cuase IM READY!thumbsup2thumbsup2

[kantellyou]

out practicing yesterday and had my first fall... scrapped my knee and bumped my head.. nothing big... but... now i know better for next time... oh and 2 CLASSES FTW!!!!!

[The Nutty Professor]

Speaking of bumping your head I meant to say something about this but forgot. Who saw Wreckreation Nation (SP?) There was a scene toward the end where a guy crashed and his helmet came off. You want to know why? The idiot didn't have the chin strap on Nutty-Rant Hey if that was someone on this forum I ain't taken it back you're still a idiot. :bad-day:Dudes if you're going to wear safety gear wear it right or don't wear it. If you don't wear it that means you can collect a Darwin Award and help humanity in it's march toward evolving. :stretcher:

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i saw it, that was some crazy sheet
cream puff lol
dude that came in second looked fat

[kingyeddi]

This looks way cool.. I think I might have to throw together a lil budget corner carver after we geet started on the drag CatEye project I got planned... I would love to make it upto VIR, but it will depend on how the finances are lookin (also I'm waaay down in Alabama), but I just started my new job, so its possible... Would make one helluve roadtrip too... Any Fla guys headin up??

FWIW I think running multi classed @ once is completely badass... Did I mention I was a die hard LeMans/ALMS fan :-D

[kantellyou]

Yup fla guy here going up with a friend

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

man what are they gonna do when 60 bikes show up?
is there a limit? can we bump the small classes?
holy mega midbikes Batman!

[Shooter]

I hope 60 Mids show up thumbsup2
That would be the ultimate BOMB!
Do we know of anyone from any of the other sites that might show up at this race?

[kingyeddi]

Maybe a couple of us southeast guys could geta van or 2 and just throw in on the gas

[kantellyou]

i dont have a trailer on anything... im just throwing 2 x7s and the back of my car... some tools, gas and oil... nothing much..

PS... we should try to get this information up on the VIR website... make it a big event?? cameras.. pics and stuff like that...

[kingyeddi]

i dont have a trailer on anything... im just throwing 2 x7s and the back of my car... some tools, gas and oil... nothing much..

PS... we should try to get this information up on the VIR website... make it a big event?? cameras.. pics and stuff like that...
Yeah that would ****en own!! I think I can get a couple of my boys that are into 'big bikes' in on this midbike action.. Like you said, would definatly make for some nice footagecool_smilie

[Midbike Racer]

Anyone got a full front fairing for an x7? banghead

[The Nutty Professor]

No but these are a steal:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=200079465423

[Midbike Racer]

OK everyone. Here are the 2 classes that will be run at VIR in June.
Big thanks to Chuck at USMGP who is allowing us 2 classes.
By the looks of things, I think this will be the start of something good.
I deleted Chucks post so he could update the site and then he'll post again all the rest of the event info.

Midbike Limited
Stock 4 strokers up to 110cc's and modified 2 strokes up to 85cc's
Bikes must have full front fairing on bike with a number placed on the front of the bike.
Numbers must be on both side of the rear seat clearly shown.
If 2 midbikes have the same number, the 2nd registered will be required to change or modify the number.
Bikes must have brakes. Major oil & water ports must be safety wired & have catch cans applied in a safe manner.
All wheels must be race ready and safe. No cracks.
We suggest you upgrade to a race made wheel and check your wheels after each race for damage.
Also, for rider safety riders must be full covered. Boots must cover ankles. No tennis shoes allowed.
Leather suits are preferred but dirt bike clothing will be allowed if all elbows and knees are protected .
Spine or chest protectors are mandatory.
Also, if possible please replace metal footpegs with a hard rubber or equal footpeg.
The metal footpegs are dangerous and can cause digs in the track.
Also if a bike should land on someone it could cause a major injury.



Midbike Open
All midbikes allowed with unlimited mods up to 165cc's. No NOS.
Bikes must have full front fairing on bike with a number placed on the front of the bike.
Numbers must be on both side of the rear seat clearly shown.
If 2 midbikes have the same number, the 2nd registered will be required to change or modify the number.
Bikes must have brakes. Major oil & water ports must be safety wired & have catch cans applied in a safe manner.
All wheels must be race ready and safe. No cracks.
We suggest you upgrade to a race made wheel and check your wheels after each race for damage.
Also, for rider safety riders must be full covered. Boots must cover ankles. No tennis shoes allowed.
Leather suits are preferred but dirt bike clothing will be allowed if all elbows and knees are protected .
Spine or chest protectors are mandatory.
Also, if possible please replace metal footpegs with a hard rubber or equal footpeg.
The metal footpegs are dangerous and can cause digs in the track.
Also if a bike should land on someone it could cause a major injury.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

your gonna let 85cc 2 strokes rape the stock 110s?
it says bikes must have brakes, is that brakes at all or must have front and rear brakes?
no NOS...its an outrage
i dont see anything about induction, good
:clap: for making the bikes have fairings

[Midbike Racer]

your gonna let 85cc 2 strokes rape the stock 110s?
We want to promote racers coming out even if they didn't throw any money into their midbike yet so that's why there is the stock class. I also figured there wouldn't be many of the 2 strokers out there and it would be more fair to have them in the limited midbike class instead of the open class. If it would be more fair the other way around and have them in the open class, we can do that.
As far as the brakes, lets let Chuck with the USMGP answer that one.
As far as NOS, you serious?

[USMGP1]

Mandatory front brakes. If you are like me and never use the backs I understand but i would rather have them in place just in case someones front wheels should crack and break(HINT,HINT) you may be able to control the bike without getting thrown over the handle bars.
Chuck

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ok i got ya, i only have front brakes and it wasnt a problem last time
that was those 3 spoke rims, i hope no-one is using those rims
if i fly over the bars, it wouldnt be the first time

[MotorHeadMike]

....
:clap: for making the bikes have fairings

what is the reasoning for the bikes to have fairings? Im just curious if its for safety or something else. Thanks

[FS211]

I may just attend VIR after all, my mid build is getting ready to start, hopefully i do not encounter too many obstacles in putting together my mid.

Do you need to have an RV to camp trackside? where do the bikes stay overnight? in our possession or theirs?

[The Nutty Professor]

what is the reasoning for the bikes to have fairings? Im just curious if its for safety or something else. Thanks


The reason for the fairings is we want to separate ourselves from Pit Bikes completely. Having fairings shows exactly what we ride. We need that. Why? We've started to smoke Pit Bikes and that fact needs to be shown for people to jump on the bandwagon.


Do you need to have an RV to camp trackside? where do the bikes stay overnight? in our possession or theirs?

Nope on the RV. I believe most people last year did the tent thing. I'm considering that one myself unless Dad will give up his camper trailer. It's a slide out thumbsup2 As for the bikes if they stayed with anyone but me I won't show. Nobody and I mean nobody gets my bike away from me wave_finger

[FiveStarSky]

what is the reasoning for the bikes to have fairings? Im just curious if its for safety or something else. Thanks

also track owners like them as they are less likely to tear up a track

I'm so sad i cant, go. But honestly my bike would get slapped around compared to most peoples

[swheels]

I may just attend VIR after all, my mid build is getting ready to start, hopefully i do not encounter too many obstacles in putting together my mid.

Do you need to have an RV to camp trackside? where do the bikes stay overnight? in our possession or theirs?Your bike stays with you.You don't have to worry though.There were no thieves or stealing of any sorts.A good no make that a great crowd!People were polite and helpful.

[USMGP1]

VIR Pre Registration has no Mid bikes registered. You will be gridded by the order of registration. Please go to:

http://fastlineminimotosport.webs.com/preregistration.htm


You will noticce we have added a Moped class. If you have any question on this class go to:

http://www.1977mopeds.com/

Great class to watch and very economicle so start looking for those Mopeds!

Chuck Shorie
USMGP President

[RomanianRacer]

Midbike Open
All midbikes allowed with unlimited mods up to 165cc's

So I'm guessing mid bikes with 125cc 2 stroke motors are allowed to race in this class? If we are then I might throw in a 125 on my X-12 to race next year. thinking_smilie

[USMGP1]

That is what your club set up and the rules established for the midbikes.
Chuck

[USMGP1]

Okay I love that you are registering but you need to pay so your grid position will be held for you.

[]-[owler]

I wish I lived closer, I've been looking around MN, and track outlook is bleak.thumb_down

[FiveStarSky]

-[owler;35126']I wish I lived closer, I've been looking around MN, and track outlook is bleak.thumb_down

yeah, tx doesnt have much support either

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

what goes in the space right above the submit button?

[USMGP1]

I will check it out. I am not sure but you do not have to put anything there or you can write me a note.

[USMGP1]

YouTube - Vir Plantation Valley Kart Track New Karts Video

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

not bad, i timed a lap in the middle and you ran a 49 sec
last time i ran a high 50s and my goal this time is the low 40s

[JAGspeed@XMR]

[QUOTE=USMGP1;35118]VIR Pre Registration has no Mid bikes registered. You will be gridded by the order of registration.

Is this pre-registration the grid for qualifying or the actual race.

[USMGP1]

Start spreading the news to all of the members of this site. You guys put on a great race and I enjoy watching the competition between riders.

[USMGP1]

The registration is for grid positions for the first race and then finishing position will determine the other race grid positions in the because VIR does not have enough transponders yet. If they end up getting them by the event then we will use the last practice sessions as a qualifyer. I am ready for either situation.
CHuck

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

it says no qualifying

[USMGP1]

Just so all of you know. Midbikes can only race in the Midbike classes. I saw one bike that says it is an XMR 110 or an XMR 150 . Are those midbikes?There are two Midbike classes for you to run in but Thumper 125,Thumper 150 aree both Motard classes which are for Asphalt track ready dirt bikes.
Chuck

[FiveStarSky]

Just so all of you know. Midbikes can only race in the Midbike classes. I saw one bike that says it is an XMR 110 or an XMR 150 . Are those midbikes?There are two Midbike classes for you to run in but Thumper 125,Thumper 150 aree both Motard classes which are for Asphalt track ready dirt bikes.
Chuck

yeah those are mids, XMR Pro mods, they make custom mini's and parts. They have a website if you want to check out their work.
www.xmrpros.com

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

he knows them 5*
i bet its jag wanting to lay the smack on the tards, which he could
he has a few bikes that are mid sized but not actual X bikes, like a nfs/nsr type but better
personally id like to see the tards get their feelings hurt

[swheels]

he knows them 5*
i bet its jag wanting to lay the smack on the tards, which he could
he has a few bikes that are mid sized but not actual X bikes, like a nfs/nsr type but better
personally id like to see the tards get their feelings hurtI wouldn't be surprised if they already protested against the mids running with the tards.Well the mids are just gonna have to ride as hard as hell to throw down the fastest lap times to beat any times posted.As proof that they can run with the tards.

[JAGspeed@XMR]

Just so all of you know. Midbikes can only race in the Midbike classes. I saw one bike that says it is an XMR 110 or an XMR 150 . Are those midbikes?There are two Midbike classes for you to run in but Thumper 125,Thumper 150 aree both Motard classes which are for Asphalt track ready dirt bikes.
Chuck

I have 2 bikes one is a mid XMR150 which I was planning on running in the midbike class. My other bike is a Honda NSF100/CRF150R conversion which I wanted to run in GP85 and Thumper 150. I ran it last year in CAMRA against many CRF150R motards with no issues. If NSF's, Metrakits, or YSR's are not allowed in thumper classes I will just run my NSF in GP85. I would think that many Thumper 150 guys are running motards in GP85. Not sure if you though it was a safety issue or just wanted to keep the thumper class motards only for some reason. Either way I have no issues with complying with the rules.

[USMGP1]

Well the Honda will be fine in those other classes. The midbikes are pretty much only going to run in their own classes.
Chuck

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

so what makes it a midbike? frame and wheels from an X series bike?

[cutlasskel]

VIR Pre Registration has no Mid bikes registered.

Looks like there are a couple registered now....thumbsup2

[JAGspeed@XMR]

Midbike Limited
Stock 4 strokers up to 110cc's and modified 2 strokes up to 85cc's




Midbike Open
All midbikes allowed with unlimited mods up to 165cc's. No NOS.
Bikes must have full front fairing on bike with a number placed on the front of the bike.

I think the rules are a little to open ended. The limited midbike class should maybe allow up to 65cc 2 strokes at the most, and 110cc 4 stroke modified. 85cc is way to much for that class. This would leave the door open to every trick YSR, NSR and metrakit to run in this class.
The open midbike class should state up to 165cc (4Stroke), and maybe? 80cc 2 strokes.
I don't mind running my mid against a couple of metrakits or YSR's, but I think the rules should be amended some. Just my opinion.

[doug@xmr]

I'm gonna have to second that.
Putting those two strokes with 110's would be a slaughter unless you can really ride that thing.
Trust me you don't want to see Luigi pull up next to ya with his Derbi powered x-12. speechless33ouchh!!
And where did we get 165cc from?

One more question for my fellow midbikers how come there isn't more people paid and registered?:dunno:

[USMGP1]

I prefer to not let and bike outside of motards run in motard classes. Reason beaing is that motard riders at this level slide the rear end of the bike and having a road racer out there that is in a turn could lead to a major disaster.

As for the Midbike class rules they were developed by Chris on this website so please vocie you concerns to hime about the classes. I told him I wanted a stock and an open class and he could set them up as need be.

Thanks
CHuck

[swheels]

I'm gonna have to second that.
Putting those two strokes with 110's would be a slaughter unless you can really ride that thing.
Trust me you don't want to see Luigi pull up next to ya with his Derbi powered x-12. speechless33ouchh!!
And where did we get 165cc from?

One more question for my fellow midbikers how come there isn't more people paid and registered?:dunno:Hell we'll be chasing you guys anyway.I think the rules was everybody else but XMR on 165cc.LOL

[USMGP1]

I think all of you should get registered to lock in a grid position. You can pay later. The only risk in that is that if a rider pays before you do he will just bump you back a grid position. The grid is not looking good so far with only a few riders registered. I am hoping to see a large group of Midbike riders there to race. You Midbike riders will have a special place to pit and it will be roped off for you when you come in.
Please get registered at :

http://fastlineminimotosport.webs.com/preregistration.htm

See who is registered and their grid positions at:

http://fastlineminimotosport.webs.com/whosregistered.htm


Hurry and get 'er done!

Thanks
Chuck

[swheels]

I registered.thumbsup2

[swheels]

I registered but it ddn't show me on the grid.

[USMGP1]

Your name is there. Thank you for registering.BtW We are going to have a speedboard at the end of the front straight to show your speed on that section. Should be interesting to see the top speeds vs the pocketbikes.
Chuck

[swheels]

Thats gonna be cool! It probably make people push harder to get a good drive leading on to the front stretch.I still see that dang wall in my sleep.bluelaugh

Ok come on guys atleast register so we can get an idea of how many mids are gonna show.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

sweet!
i noticed that i rode harder having someone in front of me, plus i couldnt hear the pegs scraping over their exhaust anymore

[swheels]

So far the midbike open class is looking good.So there should be a solid 12 riders.Some good riders on top of that.thumbsup2
Come on the rest of you guys don't be shy step on up!

[Midbike Racer]

I think the rules are a little to open ended. The limited midbike class should maybe allow up to 65cc 2 strokes at the most, and 110cc 4 stroke modified. 85cc is way to much for that class. This would leave the door open to every trick YSR, NSR and metrakit to run in this class.
The open midbike class should state up to 165cc (4Stroke), and maybe? 80cc 2 strokes.
I don't mind running my mid against a couple of metrakits or YSR's, but I think the rules should be amended some. Just my opinion.

I'm gonna have to second that.
Putting those two strokes with 110's would be a slaughter unless you can really ride that thing.
Trust me you don't want to see Luigi pull up next to ya with his Derbi powered x-12. speechless33ouchh!!

Doug & JAG, I have no problem with the classes looking like that.
I agree. They would be more fair that way.
Chuck, is there a way to make that small change on your end?


Limited Class
110cc modified 4 stroke limit
65cc modified 2 stroke limit

Open Class
165cc modified 4 stroke limit
80cc modified 2 stroke limit


BtW We are going to have a speedboard at the end of the front straight to show your speed on that section. Should be interesting to see the top speeds vs the pocketbikes.
Chuck
That sounds great Chuck.
BTW, any word on if the midbike racers will have transponders?

[USMGP1]

I have no problems running whatever you decide you want your classes to be. The only bikes allowed to run in the Midbike classes are midbikes. No ysrs, NSR, or Metrakits or the like will be in those classes. They have their own classes that Midbikes will nto be running in.

Do you still want be to change your class structures? :welcome:
Chuck

[doug@xmr]

Yeah that looks much better and will make for an even playing field. I'll tell you the last thing I wanted to see was Luigi@XMR pulling up next to me on his Derbi powered X-12 in the 110 classspeechless33
By the way Luigi took
1st in the midbike 150cc class at the hook on his x-12
1st in the F1 motard class that's up to 150cc air cooled
2nd in the F2 motard class

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

what about bikes like jags white bike?
its mid sized but way ahead of the china framed bikes in suspension and handling

[swheels]

what about bikes like jags white bike?
its mid sized but way ahead of the china framed bikes in suspension and handlingI think our biggest worry is gonna be Luise derbi powered x12.It's only a 70cc 2 stroker but it's making good power plus he's gonna have a big advantage over the 4 t's going into the turns.Luise took first place at sandyhook over jag's prototype bike.Not to say that Jag won't be a threat.Then theres the pretty little package that Doug's putting together for his bike. I really think we are gonna have to ride sorta Kamikaze style to keep up with these guys.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well luigi is a good rider, that makes up for some mechanical (if any) shortcomings
ill be happy with doing better than last time
podium would be great

[swheels]

True but with that 2 stroker you can fly going into the turns hard without worrying about the engine braking.Man i miss those days.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

get a irk, same thing just pull in the clutch and your freewheelin
i like the engine brake, thats my rear brake bluelaugh

[swheels]

get a irk, same thing just pull in the clutch and your freewheelin
i like the engine brake, thats my rear brake bluelaughGot the irk.Yes you can free wheel through the corner.But when it's time to get back on the throttle and your at a good lean angle on your bike.Guess what might happen????Either the rpms may be to low so when you release the clutch.The back wheel locks up leaving you on the ground.Or when you have to get on throttle(if your in a dogfight) you'll get snatched around from the bike launching forward or breaking the traction.Well atleast that's what happened to me.LOLbluelaugh I'll work something out oneway or the other.
I think since i can adjust my idle on the fly.I'm gonna turn it up and see what happens.:dunno:

[doug@xmr]

In defense of Jag's 150cc class bike.
Our CAMRA rules are simple for the 150cc class.
Stock 10 inch midbike wheels and with nothing larger than an air cooled 150cc motor.
Though his bike uses a unique frame and swingarm and suspension side beside a stock midbike they are very close in comparison.
Luigi's bike on the other hand is well under the displacement limit for 2-strokes which makes it legal for points in our CAMRA race organization.
Essentially it's an x-12!

Our 110cc class limits 2-stroke motors to 50cc and 10 inch tires
150cc class limits 2-strokes to 80cc with 10 inch tires

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

hey no prob with luigis bike, its a 12
but jags bike is a X nothing and side by side a X mid is a joke, its a nsr/ysr quality bike with mid wheels
not that i really care but since they were talking about a 'even playing field'
i think that bike should beat up on the tards and he should ride his benelli or any other mid based bike in the mid class

[swheels]

In defense of Jag's 150cc class bike.
Our CAMRA rules are simple for the 150cc class.
Stock 10 inch midbike wheels and with nothing larger than an air cooled 150cc motor.
Though his bike uses a unique frame and swingarm and suspension side beside a stock midbike they are very close in comparison.
Luigi's bike on the other hand is well under the displacement limit for 2-strokes which makes it legal for points in our CAMRA race organization.
Essentially it's an x-12!

Our 110cc class limits 2-stroke motors to 50cc and 10 inch tires
150cc class limits 2-strokes to 80cc with 10 inch tiresI think you miss understood what i was saying. I was making a point that Luise beat jag's prototype bike with a x12.So i was saying Jag's prototype is not invincible to the midbikes.This is how i see it.If it has to wheels and it's properly setup anything is possible.thumbsup2

So i don't have a problem with any of their bikes.It's all in the setup when it's good it's good.thumbsup2

[JAGspeed@XMR]

I can tell you guys that my custom mid bike is still a mid. It uses all china made components. It is much closer to my Benelli rep. or an X bike in performance than my NSF or a metrakit.
My custom mid has no real advantage over a really well built X bike. It has the same power plant, same frame geometry, same wheels. The only advantage is a little heavier duty suspension. The bike is actually about 20lbs heavier than other mids because of that. All of the mods I did are available to anyone to do to their Mid. Suspension ,Brakes, etc.
Luigi and Doug's bikes perform every bit as well as mine on the track. They are 20lbs lighter and have a shorter wheel base so the are a little quicker through the tight stuff, my bike is a little more stable in faster sections of the track. Every style of bike has it's advantages and disadvantages the great thing about mids is that it tests the riders knowledge of building a race bike and ability on the track.
In CAMRA race practice we run Mid's against YSR's, NSF's, Motards, and metrakits. The better rider even on a Mid-bike always ends up on top.
So when we all meet at VIR it will inevitably come down to rider ability.

[FiveStarSky]

i dont see why they shouldnt let it race, the only thing that really seperates it is the frame, but it seems to be the same size as most mids

[swheels]

I can tell you guys that my custom mid bike is still a mid. It uses all china made components. It is much closer to my Benelli rep. or an X bike in performance than my NSF or a metrakit.
My custom mid has no real advantage over a really well built X bike. It has the same power plant, same frame geometry, same wheels. The only advantage is a little heavier duty suspension. The bike is actually about 20lbs heavier than other mids because of that. All of the mods I did are available to anyone to do to their Mid. Suspension ,Brakes, etc.
Luigi and Doug's bikes perform every bit as well as mine on the track. They are 20lbs lighter and have a shorter wheel base so the are a little quicker through the tight stuff, my bike is a little more stable in faster sections of the track. Every style of bike has it's advantages and disadvantages the great thing about mids is that it tests the riders knowledge of building a race bike and ability on the track.
In CAMRA race practice we run Mid's against YSR's, NSF's, Motards, and metrakits. The better rider even on a Mid-bike always ends up on top.
So when we all meet at VIR it will inevitably come down to rider ability.I agree 100%.I've learned that it's not what you got it's what you do with it.thumbsup2

[Luigi@XMR]

I dont see why there is a problem with Jag's bike:dunno: It's a hand made bike with the best chinese components that you can get that is available to everybody else, and yes its the baddest prototype midbike ever, if you put your order in now you might get your own JSpeed 150 by VIR if you feel a disadvantage thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

its not a X bike

[Luigi@XMR]

its not a X bike

Ill give you that its not a X bike, but its a JSpeed 150 Midbike. My point is that X-bikes and JSpeed bikes are Midbikes, that is why that there is a Midbike class instead of a X-Bike class. twocents

[FiveStarSky]

hm... i wont be at vir, so it really does not matter to me, but i do see why some people dont like the bike, this mid is the only one with a custom built frame, most of ours are either stock, or modded stock frames.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i didnt say i didnt like it 5, i just said it was above the class of midbikes
luigi, its more of a nfs/nsr than a chinese 'not ment for racing' bike
everyone else there in the midbike class will be on a bike that at least started out as a X bike and was fitted to race
its like putting midbike wheels and a 150 in your metrakit and saying its a midbike, which its midsized but above the class of X bikes
i do believe it comes down to rider skill, but if you guys are lappin folks because you ride good and your bikes are superior, then how much fun will that be

[rene13]

hm... i wont be at vir, so it really does not matter to me, but i do see why some people dont like the bike, this mid is the only one with a custom built frame, most of ours are either stock, or modded stock frames.

If its the white one they are talking about, the only thing that I can remember that comes off a Xbike is the wheels. IMO yall are both right it is not an X bike but it is a Mid.

Midbike: A midsize displacement motorcycle, that is air cooled with 10 inch wheels.

Is this definition right fellas?

Well the bike does fall on the borderline of both.:dunno:

[doug@xmr]

I think Jags bike should be banned from competition and locked away in my garage for eternity. If anyone would like to PM me in regaurds to the sale of a certian bike that may have possibly dissapeared I'm taking offers. bluelaugh
Ps. We all love drama don't we lol!!moon1

[stuntnx7]

If its the white one they are talking about, the only thing that I can remember that comes off a Xbike is the wheels. IMO yall are both right it is not an X bike but it is a Mid.

Midbike: A midsize displacement motorcycle, that is air cooled with 10 inch wheels.

Is this definition right fellas?

Well the bike does fall on the borderline of both.:dunno:



if its the same size in length and height its a mid plain and simple....air cooled or water cooled shouldnt make a difference

[Luigi@XMR]

i didnt say i didnt like it 5, i just said it was above the class of midbikes
luigi, its more of a nfs/nsr than a chinese 'not ment for racing' bike
everyone else there in the midbike class will be on a bike that at least started out as a X bike and was fitted to race
its like putting midbike wheels and a 150 in your metrakit and saying its a midbike, which its midsized but above the class of X bikes
i do believe it comes down to rider skill, but if you guys are lappin folks because you ride good and your bikes are superior, then how much fun will that be

I could see being a problem putting 10 inch wheels on a metrakit/nsf/nsr/ysr. But this bike was made for 10 inch wheels and it can not be qualified has a metrakit/nsf/nsr/ysr because its not. The bike is a custom chinese parts made, high quality top of the food chain mid bike thats it, it has no brand so it can not be compared to any other brand bikes. All of the suspension components can be modified to fit any bike and the motor meets class specifications. Having the best bike out in the market does NOT guarantee you first place. If XMR bikes are superior and we are lapping people like you are assuming, we do not have a secret that makes us fast, it just means we have done the homework and put in the riding time also. If you feel you have an inferior bike there is no reason to, because sky is the limit with modifications or you can build/buy any similar bike.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

well i guess thats the factory advantage, to be able to have a 5k bike out in a class that tops at 2k

[Luigi@XMR]

well i guess thats the factory advantage, to be able to have a 5k bike out in a class that tops at 2k

I completely understand where you come from, that is why I and the rest of the boys have to step up our game to keep up with JAG.bluelaugh I dont know about 2k tops bikes because the derbi pro race set up motor I have if I price everything out its close 2k and the rest of the boys 4stroke set ups are well over 1.1k .

p.s. The bike is no where near 5kwave_finger

[USMGP1]

Is the "JAG" a midbike or is it a one off type product?
Chuck

[Luigi@XMR]

Is the "JAG" a midbike or is it a one off type product?
Chuck

It's a custom made Midbike. It's a JSpeed 150 production midbike available to order at xmrpros.com (info@xmrpros.com)
It's the same size, length, etc... and it has the best available suspension in the market.

Example: it's a ducatti 1098(jspeed) compare to 1000cc Kawasaki/Honda/yamaha (x-18,x-12, gs-57....) all in the same class.

[swheels]

Look at it this way.We all will be on a track we have about the same amount of time on and experience on.Their setup "might not work as good" at vir.:dunno: than sandy hook.Vir is less technical than sandyhook(IMO).

Damn that bring'em all on.Ysr's metrakits nsr's motards.You'll only get as good as the competition.I'm ready to kick all their asses.LOL

I would like to see a grid of atleast more than 12.So hey if somebody rolled up on a scooter.I'd say let them race with us.But if they pass me with that scooter.i'll get off the track cuz that means i'm in the wrong business.bluelaughbluelaughbluelaugh

[fireman_343]

I'd love to bring my NSR-120 out and play, but I've got to work at the Fire Dept either Sat or Sun.. angry_red

Hope you all have a Fun and Safe race weekend!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

wow you got a 120 now? 2T?

[fireman_343]

HAHAHA.. no.. I went to the dark side and put in a 4 stroke.
CRF/XR100 motor with a BBR120cc kit, WebCam, Custom this, custom that, ect.. I'll post something in the NSR section I just seen!

[swheels]

Hey any of you guys from bms racing or other coming out to race at VIR this upcoming month?

[swheels]

The days are winding down.thumbsup2 How many Midbikenation peoples are going to represent at VIR???

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

me, ive almost got the entrance fee paid
i figured out that if i take the passenger seat out, and take the right door off, i can fit my 15 in the G low
ya its kinda tight but ill get 40+mpg to vir
are we still getting there on friday night and chillin?
im prolly sleepin in the car

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

chuck, how late can i paypal the reg money in?
i may not have it till the last minute

[doug@xmr]

Man,bluelaugh VIR is next weekend I better get my bike running

[swheels]

I got a few little things to.
But man i got the motor SCREAMIN!LOL If my motor last the whole race weekend it'll be by the grace of god.Cuz imma run her till she BLOWS.bluelaughbluelaughbluelaugh

[The Nutty Professor]

Bike running and spares packed whoo hoo moon1

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

oh yea baby

[swheels]

thumbsup2Sweet.I wish my ol ford econoline 150 van would make the trip.I love that thing.Well it's just sitting now. It's big and roomy perfect for such ocassions.

[ActBAD ok]

hey blitz , you could drive in the hov lane nowbluelaugh

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya you might be right
its like 2 vehicles in one
it should only cost me 15-20 bux to get there

[X7rocks]

bike is runing...need some fine tuneing though since the temp is different now

need directions but will get up on mapquest.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

http://www.virclub.com/location-map.html

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

uh oh
http://www.accuweather.com/us/va/danville/24540/forecast2.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&zipChg=1&metric=0

[X7rocks]

doesnt look good...but weather always changes well see how it goes i guess??

[The Nutty Professor]

Packed, ready to go...now count me out angry_red Swheels be ready for a call angry_redangry_redangry_red

[swheels]

how bout some rain tires.thumbsup2

[USMGP1]

Does anyone happen to know how many midbikes are coming? 10? Maybe more?
Chuck

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

id say 10 if xmr comes
are we gonna race in the rain?
i dont think im down for that
if i pre register and it rains, do i get my reg money back?

[USMGP1]

Well it says scattered showers. That is waht it said last time we were there. We do race rain or shine. It will nto rain. I am confident it is goign to be a great weekend. Look to the west and see the light! moon1 See you at the track. BTW I am bringing a speedboard to see what top speeds everyone is hitting. Should be interesting.
Chuck

[The Nutty Professor]

For those of us who got kicked in the nuts on this one how about some trackside updates when you can???????

[Ghost Rider]

Everyone post a pic of their track prepped bikes before the event!!!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

are you saying you arent going nutty?
ill try to get some pre-wreck pics this time

[btroxl]

Good luck to all who are going. Have fun and be SAFE.

-Brian

[The Nutty Professor]

are you saying you arent going nutty?
ill try to get some pre-wreck pics this time

Ask Swheels when ya see him:bad-day:

[AngelSora421]

Good luck to everyone that going. I wish for good weather for you guys and definitely take some pictures and videos!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

almost everyone had problems this time
im already home cuz i blew the motor in practice
up until then it was very impressive, i was going around almost everyone
im not sure what happened, but i think its valve or ring related cuz there is zero compression and no oil leaks
S had a tough time with his carb, he was still working it out when i left
some of the xmr boys had bike probs, even a 3-4 bike domino
of course there were lots of no-shows
people that said ,ill be there
nut if you want to talk i have some ideas
gl S

[GaRsNoW]

wow man that sucks!!! This whole time, you guys gear up for this event and problems happen. Sorry to hear