Shooterz Build

[Shooter]

Just got this Sunday from a local auction, NOT Ebay!
The bike is pretty beat up, no plastics, busted sigs, busted shock, no battery, welded foot peg, among many other things.
Probably used for stuntin'.
I had to show these pics so you guys can see the type of voodoo that I can do.
By the time I'm done with this bike you'd never have guessed it looked the way it does right now.
Can't wait to start going to work on it and start showing off some of my progress. I have other plans for it in the future but at this point the task is unconvincing to others as they are telling me that what I want to do is more or less impossible..........I'll show 'emboxing11
Anyone know what kind of bike this is?
The swingarm looks like that of an x19 or am I thinking x15dunno but the headlight is totally throwing me. Without any plastic I really don't know what the heck I got.
I'm all ears

[swanni06]

x15 swingarm, x1 front rim ,x6 rear rim, and x7 frame looks to me ..maybe.
somebody made a hybrid out of bike parts!
That headlight is from a enduro bike, look how the front fender
doesnt go right.

[mishka]

well thats a x15 with a x1 look like front wheel!thumbsup2
lol finally its not just me and blits!
lol
so what are ur planes for it?rock2

[Shooter]

thinking_smilie Making my own body panels to give it a more rounded edges look, a little beefy like the x19 but with some Vader-like qualities like the R2.
Paint will be House of Kolor, pearl sunburst orange, kind of a yellowie-orange depending on how the light hits it. Was thinking tan ostrich seat but could consider rattlesnakedunno.
Probably put on some digital bike speedo (schwinn?) or something just cuz I like how it looks.
Then I might even try to figure out something on installing Sirius radio or something.
Lights are another story.
This is going to take some time and if this whole thing craps out on me then I'm going to plan B..........TBA

[mishka]

lol thats cool
but y are you going to have music in it? are u going to have it as a show bike?
but ya im doing a x15 project aswell..
but mine is going to look more like the mv agusta!thumbsup2thumbsup2thumbsup2rock2

[Shooter]

I want to put on that augusta plate holder turn sig combo, but if I can't register the bike then why bother, right?
Yeah, I definately want to make it show.
I wanted the fairing under the bike to give the appearance that it was lowered as well, so plastics and fiberglass modding are going to be pretty extreme, in fact, completely scratch built.
If I succeed, I promise not to disappoint.

[stuntnx7]

just stunt that one and buy another bike later that has all that on it

[Midbike Racer]

Congrats shooter on the new midbike.
After reading what you plan to do... I can totally see it!
The color will look killer.
I can't wait to see the progress in pics!
rock2

[Shooter]

I still plan to buy a "new" bike, whenever that may be. I got this bike at auction for $30 so I obviously couldn't pass it up. What I'm going to do now is just see what I can do with it and see if I can make miracles happen, after all, fabbing new body panels on a new bike for me wouldn't make much sense anyways, especially when I'm trying to make my own style.......I'm something of an artist, sculptor, and Industrial Designer.....so this might help explain it.

[swheels]

X15 if its' standard x19 if it's an auto.X1 rear wheel used for the front.That light is from a honda trike or that bike the came out with a long time ago called the fatcat or bigwheels.It appears the forks are from the there also.Definitely not the stock forks.My guess is that they were looking to get more ground clearance so they raised the front of the bike.Overall she can be resurrected.thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

its a second edition x15
you can tell by the frame cradle in the front
mine dont have that
start with a good sand blasting

[The Nutty Professor]

Finally Swheels someone who can make body panels! I know what I want but a sculpture I'm not and the SCAD students around here (Or the ones I run into) have not sense of moto design. Don't get me wrong these kids are brilliant but just a little touched wave_finger Anyway as Red would say good on ya Shooter. Can't wait to see the bike. If even half of what you want to do pans-out your bows_smilie

[Shooter]

Yeah, I'll be cleanin' her up real nice and purrrrdy.
I failed to mention the front fender is only half there and was bent back so that's probably why it didn't look right in the pics, but y'all probably saw that.
The ignition lock is also disabled, didn't come with key but not wired up anyway.......not too worried, these things are easy to replace.
Oh yeah, this is also manual.
I don't know much about how these things are assembled so anxiety will probably get the better of me at times........there's a first for everything I guess.
Let the fun begin!popcorn_smilie

[redryderaus]

Great pick up, shooter! It'll be a good base for a one of a kind. I can't wait to see your fairing.

Cheers,

red

[Shooter]

Thanks Red!
Can't wait to post the progress! Here's a pic of a kart body I started many moons ago.
I know this isn't midbike related but just wanted to show an example of what I can do and how I'm going to be going about creating my fairings.
cheers11

[rednek01]

Man thats quite some skill you have there!

[The Nutty Professor]

Is that a ground up or modification of and another body? If it's ground up dude what are you doing in here? You should be here http://www.f1technical.net/forum/index.php?sid=99772551fb3cc28e25d66dadecda47c8 gaining some serious knowledge...Hey wait what the hell am I saying crazy_smilie Stay stay...uummm just get the knowledge and spread the wealth cowboy

[Shooter]

Is that a ground up or modification of and another body? If it's ground up dude what are you doing in here? You should be here http://www.f1technical.net/forum/index.php?sid=99772551fb3cc28e25d66dadecda47c8 gaining some serious knowledge...Hey wait what the hell am I saying crazy_smilie Stay stay...uummm just get the knowledge and spread the wealth cowboy

It's definately ground up scratch built!!!
I wouldn't do it any other way.
Imagine what I could do with a bike!
I need a job!
Anyone know of anything in Phoenix?
Here's how I started!!!

[Shooter]

I promised updates as progress was made so here it is......
When I got the bike it was a total mess, wires sliced, spliced, tied and fried. Fenders gone and 3/4 there, the wheels weren't even a matching pair, not quite an X15 and got stuff from other bikes and an X1.....oh man this looks like we're gonna have fun!!! Spray painted blue, at least the seat is still there, the brake calipers are messed up and I need a new pair. Yeah, I say to myself it'd be cheaper just to buy a bike new, but I'd do the same thing stripping it and rebuilding it just so I can show it off for you...........
Here are some pics of the progress

[rednek01]

I promised updates as progress was made so here it is......
When I got the bike it was a total mess, wires sliced, spliced, tied and fried. Fenders gone and 3/4 there, the wheels weren't even a matching pair, not quite an X15 and got stuff from other bikes and an X1.....oh man this looks like we're gonna have fun!!! Spray painted blue, at least the seat is still there, the brake calipers are messed up and I need a new pair. Yeah, I say to myself it'd be cheaper just to buy a bike new, but I'd do the same thing stripping it and rebuilding it just so I can show it off for you...........
Here are some pics of the progress

looks good bubba keep it up I cant wait to get mine and do the same tear it down just to build it bac up as my own creation!

[Midbike Racer]

Lookin good Shooter. thumbsup2

Almost ready for the pavillions!!!

[Shooter]

Thanks MBR!
Pavalions can't come soon enough and you have no idea how badly I want to finish this!!!
I was NOT inspired by this picture but it has headlights the way I'm going to make mine on my mid.
This is probably the closest I've seen to how I want my bike to look.
cool_smilie

[rednek01]

wow me likey!thumbsup2bows_smilie

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

it looks like that frame is way stronger than mine
that middle part is not on mine
dam i knew i shoulda got a 19
good job so far

[stuntnx7]

that would be clean....i need to get me a set of forks like yo franknbike has...my x7 looks like its lowered already with the stock crap...lol

[Shooter]

that would be clean....i need to get me a set of forks like yo franknbike has...my x7 looks like its lowered already with the stock crap...lol

I'll sell you mine stuntn if ya want 'em.
I'll remove the overspray that's on em and get em lookin new again.
Lemme know what you think is a fair price and I'll likely sell em to ya, otherwise, are there any other takers???

[Shooter]

Progress is being made but not as quickly as I would like.
As promised, here are current pics of progress.
I know, I know........you guys want to see some body.......hang in there gang, as soon as I get the proper front wheel and and the right shocks so I can get the correct height where I want it, then I can start showing off some curves......until then, this will have to dorock2

[rednek01]

awesome job bud I cant wait to see more rock2

[Pinto93]

So how much for the forks???

[swanni06]

looks awsome man..I like the orange!!!

[Midbike Racer]

Looking great shooter.
I really like the orange.
thumbsup2

[Shooter]

Looking great shooter.
I really like the orange.
thumbsup2

looks awsome man..I like the orange!!!

Thanks guys!
The orange has a darker pigment in it than I would have liked, giving it a kind of brownish color, I'm not that crazy about it but I can work with it, I'll just have to tone down my color scheme a bit but I can still make it look like a killer bikerock2
Got my new parts today:
rear shock, throttle controller, fuse holder, kick stand & spring, key switch/keys, Voltage Regulator (original was torched), choke cable, front rim, and (i know what you're gonna say) battery.....I'll eventually get a better one.
All this being said, yeah, I could've just bought a new bike, but I'm enjoying building my bike the way I am and buying pieces as I can afford them. As for now, this project is the only thing helping me keep keep my sanitycrazy_smilie
I'll keep you postedcheers11

[Supercharged]

awesome swingarm and wheel color, it looks like the repsol orange to mehangloose keep the pictures coming bluelaugh

[redryderaus]

Looks good, shooter. Add another thumbsup2 for the orange.

Cheers,

red

[stuntnx7]

is the swing arm some kind of C channel

[redryderaus]

It's made from steel pressings. There'd be a fair bit of flex in it compared to one made from tube.

Cheers,

red

[schofell84]

a simple fix would be to box them in, like old hot rod frames. im not sure how much it would help flex though.

[redryderaus]

It would help a lot, but it would be a lot of work.

Cheers,

red

[swheels]

Great job!thumbsup2 But i'm ready to see those fairings.Mabey they'll help motivate me into making my set.rock2

[redryderaus]

Me too, swheels. I wish I had the talent shooter has. I'm good on the technical and structural stuff but I've got about as much artistic ability as the chair I'm sitting on bluelaugh I'm sure shooter will come up with a fantastic looking bike.

Cheers,

red

[Shooter]

Okay Peeps!
I need to get my front forks, front tire, wheel and neck bearings and I will be ready to do some sculpting.
For now, this is what I have to show you.
I have been trying to think of a name for her and I think I got it..........Resurrected (should be obvious)
I'll refer to her as Teddy for short.
Anyone got any other ideas for a name?
Plans also call for carbon fiber brake/clutch handles, carbon fiber mirrors, and carbon fiber smoked LED turn sigs.
I'm thinking a yellow iridium V2 windshield but not sure at the moment.
Anyway, enjoy the pics.........cowboyShootercowboy
rock2

[Shooter]

Okay Peeps!
I need to get my front forks, front tire, wheel and neck bearings and I will be ready to do some sculpting.
For now, this is what I have to show you.
I have been trying to think of a name for her and I think I got it..........Resurrected (should be obvious)
I'll refer to her as Teddy for short.
Anyone got any other ideas for a name?
Plans also call for carbon fiber brake/clutch handles, carbon fiber mirrors, and carbon fiber smoked LED turn sigs.
I'm thinking a yellow iridium V2 windshield but not sure at the moment.
Anyway, enjoy the pics.........cowboyShootercowboy
rock2

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I was going to install lights in the ends of the frame tubes just before the swingarm.......I'm popping the 4 plugs out and putting in lights......probably wire them up with the turn sigs.cheers11

[schofell84]

i cant believe you paid money for that shock. haha

[stuntnx7]

lookin good so far....the swing arm and wheels set it off

[Midbike Racer]

Looks great shooter.
As for a name, what about Phoenix?
It is where you live and this midbike rose from the ashes also...
rock2

[mishka]

Nice man!thumbsup2
that looks sick...
i cant wait to see the bike finished..
what kind of engine are u going with?rock2

[Pinto93]

Looks great shooter.
As for a name, what about Phoenix?
It is where you live and this midbike rose from the ashes also...
rock2


Phoenixthinking_smilie
Definatly symbolic....
I think u should do it Shooter!

[redryderaus]

It's going to be beautiful when it's finished. You're doing a great job on her, shooter. I like Phoenix for a name. You could do a wicked paint job with the mythical bird emerging from the flames. That would be eye candy and then some! thumbsup2

Cheers,

red ausflag

[Shooter]

Phoenixthinking_smilie
Definatly symbolic....
I think u should do it Shooter!

i cant believe you paid money for that shock. haha

Yeah!
I think Phoenix will be good, but I'm putting RZREKTD on a vanity fake plate!
I agree about the shock!!!
What I really want is a ST8-RC but that will have to wait and come later. I just needed something to hold me over till I could get to that point, otherwise we'd be waiting forever to get this project finished, and to be honest, I'm beginning to lose some patience with myself cause I really want to see this thing done.
Other that that, what do you guys think of my other ideas........carbon fiber and lights?????

[Pinto93]

I myself am a fan of carbon fiber...Do it!

[Shooter]

Here's how the bike is sitting tonight.
Will probably start the bodywork as soon as I get my forks and tire.

[Pinto93]

Looks great manthumbsup2
Is that the engine that came on it?
I never realized how different the X15 frames are... Me likeythumbsup2

[Shooter]

Looks great manthumbsup2
Is that the engine that came on it?
I never realized how different the X15 frames are... Me likeythumbsup2

Thanks Pinto!
That engine came with the bike but it isn't original....the #'s don't match.....should we be surprised???
I like the frame cradle yet at the same time I hate it........can't gat an engine in/out quick when you need to and without messing up the paint.
It's great for fastening fairings to though!

[Midbike Racer]

Man shooter, that looks killer. Very cool. cool_smilie
I am going to be feeling like Ugly Bety next to you at the pavillions...bluelaugh
Great job. thumbsup2

[rednek01]

Man I like it more and more everytime I see it!

[Shooter]

Man shooter, that looks killer. Very cool. cool_smilie
I am going to be feeling like Ugly Bety next to you at the pavillions...bluelaugh
Great job. thumbsup2

Man I like it more and more everytime I see it!

Should I paint the motor the same color as the frame or leave it silver????

[stuntnx7]

if anything i would go with some orange to accent on the motor

[stuntnx7]

when do you get the front end.....i wanna see it rolling

[Pinto93]

if anything i would go with some orange to accent on the motor

O yea the Orange would be hot! Maybe just accent some things tho.U dont want to over do itwave_finger

[Midbike Racer]

Should I paint the motor the same color as the frame or leave it silver????
I think if you did a little accent color, that would look cool.
Nothing too overpowering... you are the artist, you know this...bluelaugh

[Shooter]

I think if you did a little accent color, that would look cool.
Nothing too overpowering... you are the artist, you know this...bluelaugh

I know MBR, but sometimes we can let ouselves get a little carried away. I may be an artist but believe it or not I'm actually afraid of color, no kidding! There are so many colors that we can't even imagine and with this bike, well, I did have a vision and I'm going to try to make it happen. One thing I will admit I think I'm good with is balance.......most of the engine is covered anyway which is why I'm not so sure about doing anything to it. Braided lines are an absolute must and any other electrical wires are more or less going to be hidden............I wonder what kind of damage I could do to a full size bikethinking_smilie............I won't even go there.
I think I'll start making some progress with some body shaping this weekend, I don't want to wait till parts get here (I haven't placed to order yet).
I'll keep y'all postedcowboy

[rednek01]

I'm thinkin black or flat black so it isnt a focal point at all but will give excellent contrast and a background for the colors around it to pop

[Shooter]

I found a couple of pics on www.2wtmag.com that show a bike with the color I was originally wanting to make my bike. This bike is owned by Billy Morgan from Gastonia, NC.
Given my budget (if I really have one) I decided not to spend the couple hundred for this color paint I really wanted but opted for a much cheaper alternative.......Dupli-color Orange Mist spray paint found at AutoZone.
It's a little darker than I would have liked but still workable. The silver frame didn't look right, it looked cheap or too light or something and wasn't in contrast to the darker pigment in the orange I am now using, (but chrome looks killer!), because of this, I chose to use the dark metallic grey Dupli-Color Wheel paint on the frame. It's kind of a balance thing with the colors but it's the pigment in the paint that can really make or break the balancing act if it isn't quite just right.
Anyway, I wanted to share this vision with you.
Also, there was a thread posted about speedometers some time ago when this forum first started, I don't remember all the details but thought I'd share this with all of you as well........I was thinking of putting this speedo in my bike......I separated the original stock gear indicator from the rest of the instrument cluster and will incorporate that indicator with this new digital speedo in a cluster of my own, here are the details of the odometer

- Multifunction Bicycle Odometer
- High quality and durable
- An ideal companion for your bicycle
- Display information about the cycling speed, mileage and time dynamically when cycling
- Examine the fastest speed, total driving mileage and total riding time
- Perfect for use during riding bicycle
- You can use it to analyze your fastest cycling speed by counting total driving mileage and total riding time

- Waterproof
- Thermometer, clock and stopwatch function
- Prompt the battery voltage
- Auto-prompt the maintenance of bicycle, the add-subtract speed dynamically and the over speeding warning to ensure
safe cycling
- Auto-lamp when in the night
- Low power indicator
- Display when you need to add engine oil
- Voltage: DC 3V
- Static consumed-power: ? 0.00009w
- Powered by 1 x CR2032 Lithium Battery (included)
- Size: 90 x 48 x 22mm

........Again, as I first mentioned, bike completely hand fabricated customrock2

[Supercharged]

thats coming along awesome, keep updates on the pictures

[Shooter]

Well my friends, as expected, just a very short delay with progress, but not because of problems with the bike. I celebrated my 10 year anniversary near the end of September and as a gift to my lovely wife.....a custom designed ring by none other..myself. The design went in in August and because of the complex nature of the design, they've been running into problems with the making of the wax.........at this point and well past our anniversary Im beginning to lose some of my patience, so I'm going to do what the jewler seems to be unable to do and that is create the wax bust myself, since it seems I'm the only one who knows what it is I want even though he had a perfectly drawn rendering of the ring to make the bust from.
Anyway, back on the subject of the bike.....
I made a few more purchases today and want everyone to know just how serious I am about the resurrection of my bike.
Here are some of the things that are going to be added to the bike as well as a brand new set of the 7 choice color oval LED Halo lights!!!cool_shades

[rednek01]

Dang man you gotta slow down you are making me jealous and I havent even gotten or started on mine

[Midbike Racer]

Very cool shooter.
This is going to be one pimped out midbike.
rock2

[Shooter]

yeah, i keep this up i might as well call her centerfold or supermodel..........if anyone ever gets a midbike magazine going........dunno

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

looks like a nice show bike
i want mine as show as i can get yet still race

[The Nutty Professor]

Shooter I've been looking at that gauge for a long time. They used to sell the hell out of them on Ebay. I noticed the sentence about "Oil" but I could never get a straight answer from the sellers about why that function was on a bike speedo? I was going to get it anyway and hope. If it didn't have the function I felt I would still come out on top. As for photo idea's I have a lot of photo's locked up in my laptop. When I get them out I'll put a few here. They are of competition show bikes and some are right in line with your vision I think?

[Shooter]

Nutty, I see you found my brainwave!
Nice view of the bike and it shows much the way I would like mine to....I like duel exhaust but that stuff is going to have to wait, I really don't want to mess with that part of the bike right now.
I question the same thing about the "oil" on the speedo, but I feel the same way you do about it.
I received some questions about some of the parts that's going on my bike and noticed I couldn't get a pic to load.....it's of a carbon fiber stick-on that goes on around your gas cap and surround (loss of the right words at the moment), not quite sure if I want to do thisdunno
Also, in response to some of these questions I wrote this........

I have NEVER and I repeat NEVER ever built a motorcycle before, never owned a midbike or motorcycle or scooter, and never fully disassembled a bicycle before, doing what I am doing with this midbike is a first for me and finding parts for me is going to be chance or I'm going to somehow make it work.....I am sharing my progress with everyone because I want to show that anyone with a vision and a little determination CAN make that vision happen........sometimes you might even surprise yourself with the results!!!!
rock2
I wish everyone well with their bikes and hope that with the little knowledge I have with these bikes and what I'm trying to do with mine, I hope I inspired even at least one person and that even one shared idea, you were/are able to accomplish what you set your mind out to do, even possibly discover a new found talent!!!

[The Nutty Professor]

Is the gas cap surround actually carbon fiber or is it on of those padded carbon look jobs. If it's the padded one STAY AWAY! Gas spilling on it will cause the padding to fade quickly. I used a few of the motorcycle add-on's or seen them in use. Some are good some are junk. Most carbon look parts are junk. Spend the extra bucks for the real thing or find another option. With the quaility of the work you've done so far don't sell the design short by using cheap bling twocents You might want to look into a pair of rearsets for the ride. A quality set of those can make a bike look like a million dollar ride thumbsup2

[Shooter]

I have to clear a few things up and try to avoid some confusion.....and a whole lotta hatin' toward me.
I have stuff ordered and some stuff that's waiting to be ordered.....this isn't to say that I don't have the ability to make this stuff work on my bike.
I know progress on my bike appears to be going at a rapid pace, there are some reasons for this......I don't have a "real" job and anything I do manage to work, the hours and days of working are very flexible.....the other reason is that I have a goal to get this thing done cause I want to show this thing off and get it to some local car/bike shows(and my wife wants it out of the house).
I was asked about the brake handles and whether or not these will work on our midbikes, as far as I know, yes, my bars have a 22mm diameter and the brake clamps fit this, so as long as the handles fit in the clamps or at least are Honda, my guess is we shouldn't have a problem.
The carbon gas cap surround I believe is the fake padded carbon look, I will NOT use this on my bike and would not want to guide anyone else to do the same (unless it doesn't matter and you just want the look for cheap!) Remember, you usually get what you pay for......some of us like Pinto just get lucky.
Nutty, I agree with you, I've come this far and you all know where I'm trying to go, I won't sell myself or my bike short. Do you have any suggestions for rearsets?

I need to know exactly what the length/diameter is of the front axle for my bike is (X15), I'm placing my order sometime Monday or Tuesday and need to know this measurement, this also matters so I can get the right size bearings,
any and all help is appreciated.thank_s
Well, I'm going to end this here for now before I reeealy lose myself in what I'm trying to say, and the key word here is tryingpeace_symbol

[Pinto93]

Lucky??? I'm just a good searcher! Mine is going to require a good amount of work to before I'm done with it. I've been looking for some rear sets too. I'm thinking bout going with the GSXR setup. Found some off of a 600 that look like they would be pretty easy to be made to fit, just weld up some adapter brackets. Let me know what u end up using.

[The Nutty Professor]

Shooter did I sound like I was hatin' speechless33 dude if I did I'm really sorry! I was just hatin' on the cheap crap that companies put out and you find out to late just how bad it is. As for rear sets the juries still out on that one. OEM rearsets look a hundred times better that what's on the bike but aftermarket billet CNC are the shizzle. I'm looking for a reasonably priced set now. Anybody got any suggestion?

[Wrath7sins]

I would be tempted to paint the silver parts of the engine orange, and the black part(s) the same color as the frame. *unless* the farings are gonna be orange too, in which case, I'd frame-color parts of the engine. twocents

[Midbike Racer]

Everything is looking great shooter!
thumbsup2

[Shooter]

no no no no no Nutty!
You weren't hatin'.......I don't think anybody was!
I had someone very curious about my brake lever set I was ordering and wanted to know if these things would fit on their bike......all I was trying to say was that I am trying to follow my vision and that I didn't want to misguide anyone because of my own vision.
Because these bikes are a relatively new species to most of us, the "What I want to do to it" factor is going to be mostly trial and error.
I didn't want someone to follow my mistake (in case I had one) and hate me because of it.
I never was any good with conversation and I'm not very quick witted, my art had always done my talking for me.....to go a little deeper, most of my youth was spent behind a closed door.
Please forgive me if I don't say the right things at times, sometimes what I'm trying to say gets a little mixed up or lost in translation.......but it's all good!
peace_symbol
I know you all are backing me on my project.

Wrath, Yeah, the fairings are going to be orange so it'll be a relatively bright bikecool_shades I know the engine or frame won't really be seen but now I'm thinking of just leaving the engine the way it is to help keep things from looking too monotone........if anything, I think I'd chrome that engine but I think I'll leave that alone for now........I appreciate the suggestion.
rock2

[redryderaus]

There's no hatin' going on here. thumbsup2

How about moulding some CF rearsets? I'm thinking about doing that. They'd look great.

Cheers,

red ausflag

[swheels]

There's no hatin' going on here. thumbsup2

How about moulding some CF rearsets? I'm thinking about doing that. They'd look great.

Cheers,

red ausflagI was thinking a carbon fiber swingarm.If i made one up myself i'd be scared to use it.Might fall apart on me.speechless33

[Shooter]

I was thinking a carbon fiber swingarm.If i made one up myself i'd be scared to use it.Might fall apart on me.speechless33

I think the way to make this idea work would be to use the actual swingarm, get out the marine resin, and do an overlay with the carbon fiber, make sure to apply a couple more thin coats of the resin, sand the resin smooth and maybe some wet-sanding, get the buffing wheel out (the one you can put in your drill works awesome) and shine the snot out of it...........it would look pretty killer!!!!
I kind of like that idea myself but I might do an extended polished swingarm down the road, not now though, don't wanna break bank.wave_finger
Somehow I get the feeling you were just having a little fun Swheels, but if it actually was an idea, I just put in my twocents on how I think we can make it workrock2

[The Nutty Professor]

I was thinking a carbon fiber swingarm.If i made one up myself i'd be scared to use it.Might fall apart on me.speechless33

QOUTE=redryderaus-There's no hatin' going on here.

How about moulding some CF rearsets? I'm thinking about doing that. They'd look great.

Cheers,

red

Carbon rearsets??? As much as I like carbon fiber and I never thought about that one crazy_smilie How would one go about it Red? I have heavy weight carbon cloth just sitting around.

[Shooter]

My lights should be arriving in a couple of days......or at least by sometime next week.
Anyway, I'm trying to figure out some positioning for these lights and although I have a couple of ideas in mind, I thought I'd open myself up to your ideas as well.
Here's a copy of the lights and a quick scaled sketch I did of the lights.
The big lights are the halo lights.
Please print, photoshop, or whatever and share your ideas.
Thanks
Shooter

[rednek01]

Man those lights look sweet! I cant wait to see them on your bike! thumbsup2

[The Nutty Professor]

My lights should be arriving in a couple of days......or at least by sometime next week.
Anyway, I'm trying to figure out some positioning for these lights and although I have a couple of ideas in mind, I thought I'd open myself up to your ideas as well.
Here's a copy of the lights and a quick scaled sketch I did of the lights.
The big lights are the halo lights.
Please print, photoshop, or whatever and share your ideas.
Thanks
Shooter


Shooter I'm giving you an idea I've had for about 5 years now and I have yet to see it done. My idea is more race oriented but I think you can adapt it. I was going to have a number plate painted on the front of the bike. Then have the number 1 cut out of the center. Then I was going to have a piece of lexan/plexi-glass formed to fit into the hole but flush with the bodywork. The lexan would have been tinted so when the lights were out it woul look like a black number like on a race bike plate. When the lights were on they would shine through and with any luck and a little tinkering you would be able to tell what the number was in the dark. I'm telling you because I don't ever see myself doing it because only endurance racebikes have lights and I'm about done with the street speechless33 Use a different design for the lens but I think it will look smokin'

[swheels]

I think the way to make this idea work would be to use the actual swingarm, get out the marine resin, and do an overlay with the carbon fiber, make sure to apply a couple more thin coats of the resin, sand the resin smooth and maybe some wet-sanding, get the buffing wheel out (the one you can put in your drill works awesome) and shine the snot out of it...........it would look pretty killer!!!!
I kind of like that idea myself but I might do an extended polished swingarm down the road, not now though, don't wanna break bank.wave_finger
Somehow I get the feeling you were just having a little fun Swheels, but if it actually was an idea, I just put in my twocents on how I think we can make it workrock2Oh know i'm serious.But i like your idea me think me gonna try that or if i could find some body to weld up some alu.I can cut the design out for a nice rear swingarm.But i don't trust my welding skills to ride on it.LOLOL

[redryderaus]

Carbon rearsets??? As much as I like carbon fiber and I never thought about that one crazy_smilie How would one go about it Red? I have heavy weight carbon cloth just sitting around.

Carve and sand a pattern to the desired shape from blue styrene foam (the stuff sold for house wall insulation). Use aluminium tube inserts as reinforcing for the bolt holes. Make the bolt holes larger than the tube, run some CF tows through the holes radiating out across the faces of the pattern, push the well roughened (80 grit) tube inserts in, cover the rest of the pattern with three layers of your heavy weight cloth. Done.

This method is easier than producing female moulds, the foam remains inside the CF adding little weight but a surprising amount of stiffness. I'll be doing some CF parts for my mid (possibly even CF triple clamps) so I'll post pics of how it's done.

Cheers,

red ausflag

[The Nutty Professor]

Carve and sand a pattern to the desired shape from blue styrene foam (the stuff sold for house wall insulation). Use aluminium tube inserts as reinforcing for the bolt holes. Make the bolt holes larger than the tube, run some CF tows through the holes radiating out across the faces of the pattern, push the well roughened (80 grit) tube inserts in, cover the rest of the pattern with three layers of your heavy weight cloth. Done.

This method is easier than producing female moulds, the foam remains inside the CF adding little weight but a surprising amount of stiffness. I'll be doing some CF parts for my mid (possibly even CF triple clamps) so I'll post pics of how it's done.

Cheers,

red ausflag

I'll wait until you post photo's. How about a "How-To" while you're doing it.

[swheels]

Carve and sand a pattern to the desired shape from blue styrene foam (the stuff sold for house wall insulation). Use aluminium tube inserts as reinforcing for the bolt holes. Make the bolt holes larger than the tube, run some CF tows through the holes radiating out across the faces of the pattern, push the well roughened (80 grit) tube inserts in, cover the rest of the pattern with three layers of your heavy weight cloth. Done.

This method is easier than producing female moulds, the foam remains inside the CF adding little weight but a surprising amount of stiffness. I'll be doing some CF parts for my mid (possibly even CF triple clamps) so I'll post pics of how it's done.

Cheers,

red ausflagSimply brilliant that explaination alone sparkeed a ton of ideas for me.LOL carbon fiber swingarm here we come.thumbsup2 well i'd have to do some serious thinking.I don't mind crashing but i do mind crashing if something breaks and caused it.

[rednek01]

hmm i think its time to make some of my own carbon fiber parts!

[redryderaus]

Simply brilliant that explaination alone sparkeed a ton of ideas for me.LOL carbon fiber swingarm here we come.thumbsup2 well i'd have to do some serious thinking.I don't mind crashing but i do mind crashing if something breaks and caused it.

You could do it using my method. You just need to take in to account stress points and ensure you apply sufficient reinforcing in those areas.

As far as designing it goes: Look at what you want to achieve, look at how it moves and how the loads are operating on it. Obviously with a swingarm your high stress areas are going to be the pivot, the shock mount and the axle. The key is to use the CF cloth and tows to spread those loads over a wide area. Also use aluminium inserts to carry bolts, etc. As I said above, leaving the foam in place actually improves the structure.

When I get to that stage I'll do a How-To with some smaller stuff that would give you guys some basics that you can take on to more difficult projects.

Cheers,

red ausflag

[Shooter]

WooHoo.........Just got my Halo's!!!
I was so excited that I didn't even notice the little "push here" button to see the things light up while still inside the box.
Since I don't have a charger for my battery I went out to my car to hook the lights up to the battery and the rush I got just to see those things light up was just downright silly.........someone better be videoing me when I get my bike completed and running cause I'm just going to turn into something freakin' insanely crazy.

As for the Carbon Rearsets.........I understand the concept Red, I've done that myself with regular fiberglass (if you've seen my little go-cart delivery), what got my attention was that you mentioned the foam helps improve the structure, what I know is that when resin meets this foam it will melt, just like gas in a styrofoam cup. You have to coat the foam with acrylic latex to make the foam hard before applying the carbon fiber.
If you know of another way please let me know.
I like the idea if it can be made to work, but for now I think I'll feel safer just sticking with the metal parts. As for the swingarm, I still like the overlay idea but just remember,no matter what is done with the swingarm there will always be some sort of flex, just the nature of the beast I guess.rock2

[Shooter]

Got my lights and speedo today......here's pics of them and one of what I can do with the halo's.
I'm still waiting on the more important stuff which should have been shipped out today even though it was billed over a week ago..........I'm trying to be patientbanghead
As for the speedo.....Google Vetta VL110 HD for details.

[Pinto93]

sweet shooter, them badboys are nice...I Might have to get some!

[Midbike Racer]

Very cool shooter.
This is gonna be one bad ass midbike.

Cool Phillips flatscreen too! rock2

[x19soysauce]

ya so those fit the bike man thats asome

[Shooter]

ya so those fit the bike man thats asome

Very cool shooter.
This is gonna be one bad ass midbike. rock2

The lights are the small fog/driving lights and are about the only ones I could find that at least looked proportionally correct.
MBR, you'll be the first to sit on my work of art, good thing we have these shows out here every week all year longrock2
I was trying to avoid the ambilight, but you know, it's the only way to watch the Packer games besides actually being therecool_shades

[The Nutty Professor]

One man show thumbsup2 I can see it now. Shooter at a fullsize bike show taking best of show against the big boys rock2

[Shooter]

One man show thumbsup2 I can see it now. Shooter at a fullsize bike show taking best of show against the big boys rock2

Can that really happen?idea_smilie
Come to think of it, I have seen something like that happen at a car show. Just for poops and giggles I'll see if I can find it.

[Midbike Racer]

Can that really happen?idea_smilie
Come to think of it, I have seen something like that happen at a car show. Just for poops and giggles I'll see if I can find it.
shooter, I think we may need to look into making a run up to Laughlin next year for the 2008 River Run...speechless33

[Shooter]

This could probably go in the how-to section but since I'm doing this as part of the project on my bike I figured I'd just keep the whole story together as one unit.
One of the things I intended to do was pull out the 4 end caps of the frame just before the swingarm and fab my own lights to go there instead.
I looked a lot of places to find what I was looking for as far as light covers went but not much luck.
I went to Wal-Mart and got myself one of those LED nightlights, the plastic already has that reflective quality I was looking for so all I had to do now was take the heat gun to the plastic and mold it to the shape I wanted.
I intend to keep the plastic clear/white but I am also going to be fitting it with some amber LED's which should also be able to blink when the turn sigs are activated.
I got one down, 3 more to go.
Here are the pics....

[mishka]

that looks sick man!thumbsup2
keep up the good work!!

[Pinto93]

Shooter, you da man!

[Midbike Racer]

thumbsup2
Very cool shooter.

[rene13]

I'm glad to see that someone e;se is into show bikes as much as I am. I'm planning on redoing mine as well. Color would probably House of Kolor Pagan Gold with a silver base coat and gold flame ghost patterns and flake it out.rock2

[rene13]

Hey shooter here is something to add for the dressup bolts for the fairings http://www.scooterpartsrus.com/dress_up_parts.htm Thought you might like them.

[jsosh93]

He man, how does that speedo work? does it hook up just like a bike speedo?

[The Nutty Professor]

Yes it does but the one thing we tell everyone is DON'T USE the stock wheel magnets. There are 4 and they will give the speedo a false reading. You can get rid of all but one but I still think you're better off using the magnet that comes with it then you know the quality.

[jsosh93]

how do u remove the stock magnets?

[The Nutty Professor]

Drill them out or at least I did. They break apart real easy.

[mishka]

hey, so are there any updates on the bike? any pictures?:)

[jsosh93]

YA man whats going on? its looking very cool!!!! great work!

[Shooter]

hey, so are there any updates on the bike? any pictures?:)

Well, here's where I'm at...........forks, wheels, brakes are all finally on!!!
You think this would be great news, however, when these parts arrived they came without all complete hardware.
Front brake calipers........only one bolt with caliper (the short one)
Rear brake calipers.........same thing
Front axle...........didn't come with nuts.....got spacers but no nuts!!!
Triple tree.........bottom bearing race doesn't quite fit, won't seat all the way down.
Triple tree.........missing a center cap or boltdunno What the hell goes here?
Other than this..........I'm getting the bike ready for some body shaping. I'm going to set the front down probably about 1 1/2 inches to really give it that in da weeds stance. I'm starting with the front fender first and then the rest of the body will follow from there.
Here's how it looks as of right now.
If anyone can give me their twocents about my hardware situation.......I'm all earsrock2

[Midbike Racer]

Very cool pics shooter. thumbsup2
Can't wait to see the body work!

[rene13]

Well, here's where I'm at...........forks, wheels, brakes are all finally on!!!
You think this would be great news, however, when these parts arrived they came without all complete hardware.
Front brake calipers........only one bolt with caliper (the short one)
Rear brake calipers.........same thing
Front axle...........didn't come with nuts.....got spacers but no nuts!!!
Triple tree.........bottom bearing race doesn't quite fit, won't seat all the way down.
Triple tree.........missing a center cap or boltdunno What the hell goes here?
Other than this..........I'm getting the bike ready for some body shaping. I'm going to set the front down probably about 1 1/2 inches to really give it that in da weeds stance. I'm starting with the front fender first and then the rest of the body will follow from there.
Here's how it looks as of right now.
If anyone can give me their twocents about my hardware situation.......I'm all earsrock2

Here you go shooter. The bolt that goes through the triples is 8 1/2 inches long. and here are pics of the aluminum bushings and bolt.

[Shooter]

ALRIGHTY MY MIGHTY FRIENDS!!!
Not much progress has been made lately on the bike cause I've been away for family for the holidays (Wisconsin), Go Pack Go!, and got the oportunity to freeze my nutzoff......it was cold up there and I really don't miss it, however, I picked up some sort of bug and just can't seem to get rid of it so I've been takin' it kinda easy!
ANYWAY..........I broke down and bought myself the body kit. To save myself some time and some expense I felt it was better to have something already there and have something to work from rather than try to reinvent the wheel.
SO, here's the bike........the magic is about to begin.
BTW, I'm 5'7", 136 pounds and I gotta tell y'all, for the size of the bike, it's kinda comfy.
Here's some pics for perspective

[x19soysauce]

cool man good luck hope u have fun wit it make sure to take us through everystep

[The Nutty Professor]

Shooter been missing your genius on here. Good to see you back! I know what you mean about the fit and feel at 5'7" 160lbs I can climb all over the bike at speed and pretty much make it do what I want. Looking at your bike from front to back there's one thing (Color) that throws of your design. The silver front forks. Does it need to be the same color as the swingarm???? I can see you've got your work cut out for you if you're going to cover/modify those opening for the lights. Want an idea for a October Surprise? How about a sport-bike Mid Bike version of the Ghost Rider? Money in the bank shooter...money in the bank. twocents

[Shooter]

make sure to take us through everystep

You know I will!
I'm going to have a lot of filling and sanding but you know it's gunna look killer when all is said and done.
I have to fill in the area where the original headlight is supposed to go and then fab it so i can put my other lights in there.
I'm just excited to get to this point.rock2

[Shooter]

Looking at your bike from front to back there's one thing (Color) that throws off your design. The silver front forks.twocents

I hear ya Nutty!
Wasn't able to sand anything down yet and I didn't have the fenders on the bike either when I took the pic.
I really want to change my swingarm to one of those extended polished ones if you know what I meanthinking_smilie
So this Sunset pearl orange and alum. should compliment each other nicely.....but I know how much you don't like orange.
The color is actually a risk for me being that it is so bright, I'm usually more conservative.
Let the fun begin!!!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i think the color is fine, color matching the forks will look real nice, i did it to another one of my toys and it came out nice
its comfy because the 15 is wider than the 18

[Shooter]

I'm finally beginning to make the progress I really wanted to and as promised, the pics of what I'm doing.
You'll notice from previous pics that the bike didn't have the headlight and it left open this big nasty gap.
To fill this gap I could have used one of any number of different plastics but decided to go really cheap instead so I could show that cool things can be done on even the simplest budget.
I happened to have a tube of PVC laying around and used that.
I cut off a piece that was probably about 12 inches, then I cut one slit down the middle from end to end, from here I placed it in an oven on some foil for a couple of minutes, when PVC became soft and flexible I layed it flat and placed some weight on it so that it would remain flat when cooled.
The result is what you see in the 3rd pic with the saw.
Shaping and fitting was also done with a heat gun for the smaller pieces.
This is the progress as of right now.....The adhesive I'm using is Plastic Fusion which can be found at Home Depot.....I'm just waiting for it to set up which is from 5-10 minutes.
The strenght of this stuff is 4000 lbs per sq. inch and believe me, this stuff works!!!
I'm thinking of going with either a gold-chrome, chrome, or iridium windscreen but if I think of a better alternative (paint) then I'll just rework the screen I already have and go from there.
Anyway, this is my progress so far.

[x19soysauce]

asome man what else is next on the list

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

man im glad your doing a x15, its gonna be sweet

[Shooter]

asome man what else is next on the list

Fitting for my headlights........refer to the pics in post #96 of this thread.
I'll be filling the side openings and reshape and make them a 1-piece

[Shooter]

man im glad your doing a x15, its gonna be sweet

Thanks Blitz, I really want to put on an extended swingarm, just to make it killer......we'll see.

[x19soysauce]

if i ever do a bike i would try to get a x15 rear fairing codas bikes front fiaring and a x19 center fairing that would be asome

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i gotta say that the swing on my 18 is so bad azz i cant say
i totally recommend one if you can get it
i actually like my 18 now lol

[mishka]

wow.. im thinking of doing that to my x15 now lol..
cuz my cover broke off so i have a hole there too.. so you glued the plastic on there? that looks really nice and professional! thumbsup2 great job!

[Shooter]

wow.. im thinking of doing that to my x15 now lol..
cuz my cover broke off so i have a hole there too.. so you glued the plastic on there? that looks really nice and professional! thumbsup2 great job!

Thanks Mishka!
Yep, glued.....just make sure you use the Plastic Fusion to get the best results. There's still some shaping and sanding to do but the hard part is already done (for the front anyway).
Like I mentioned somewhere before.......If I can make this thing look drop dead gorgeous I wonder what I could do with one that is full sizethinking_smilie
I'll keep y'all posted with progress as it comes.
BTW......I got my carbon mirrors today......I completely forgot all about themspeechless33

[mishka]

oh cool!thumbsup2 ya i think ill do that too but ill need some bondo tho to fill in some spots and to make the shape good. r u going to do the same thing to the windshield too?

[Shooter]

r u going to do the same thing to the windshield too?

Bondo as good as it is does crack and can lose it's bond (especially with the vibration and the way these bike get used), it's real good as a filler for those uneven spots though.
It still works pretty good and is pretty inexpensive for the amount you get. I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from using it but consider the area for where you want to use it and then ask if it has the ability to hold up where you want to use it......know what I'm trying to say???
I wish you luck Mish!
As for my windshield........does anyone have a busted one they would like to get rid of? I would fill in the remaining hole with the same plastic, glue the piece in, sand to match things up and then buff.......would never know the windshield was patched.
I'm really considering a full size windshield and then cutting it down to fit the Mid. I'm looking at the AIRBLADE windscreens which I found at FLYNCYCLE.com

[The Nutty Professor]

Damn wish I'd known about that technique before I started on my bike. That looks like it will stand up to a crash a hell of a lot better.

[rene13]

I used a windscreen from a Honda 929 for my X-18 here is the link http://midbikenation.com/showthread.php?t=545

[Shooter]

The front vent openings are being opened up and being shaped for the lights that are going to be installed.
I did one and left the other so you could see the difference on how much is actually being done.
Here's a rough idea what it would look like with the lights installed.
You all have no idea how antsy this project is making me.......I can see the bike all finished (in my head), but I'm just not getting to that finish line as fast as I would like.....AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHGHHHHHHHHHHbangheadbang headbangheadspeechless33

[Midbike Racer]

Man shooter, you are going to have one bad ass midbike.
What makes it even better is we get to along for the ride through its evolution.

[x19soysauce]

asome man its going to look great man

[Shooter]

Man shooter, you are going to have one bad ass midbike.
What makes it even better is we get to come along for the ride through its evolution.

I'll admit, I usually never allow anyone to see my work until it's all finished. With past projects I had taken pics while work was in progress, mainly to showcase the progress it had taken to get it to the finished product and show people with pictures and let the pictures do the talking for me.
Someone once asked me why I take progressional pictures of my work.......most people haven't a clue what I put into my work, now they can see.
I'm sharing my skills now because I believe there's many out there that have the talent and have the ability to be really good and some probably don't even know they got it.
How cool to feel good about yourself showing off a talent you didn't even know you hadthinking_smiliethinking_smilie

[mishka]

wow man that looks really good!thumbsup2
now im looking at my x15 and thinking "pos! why dont u look as good as his?" lol
keep up the work man!thumbsup2

[Shooter]

wow man that looks really good!thumbsup2
now im looking at my x15 and thinking "pos! why dont u look as good as his?" lol
keep up the work man!thumbsup2

LOLThanks for the support Mish!
Hey, at least we have the x15thumbsup2
In one of my earlier poses (for the logo) I discovered why the 15 really isn't preferred for race.....with that wide body it's really hard to lean the bike low.
Explains why the x18 is the bike of choice for race (nice and skinny)

[mishka]

LOLThanks for the support Mish!
Hey, at least we have the x15thumbsup2
In one of my earlier poses (for the logo) I discovered why the 15 really isn't preferred for race.....with that wide body it's really hard to lean the bike low.
Explains why the x18 is the bike of choice for race (nice and skinny)

lol well ya thats true.
i might just cover the head light and make it look like a race bike.
nothin like your bike thats forsure but a little nicer than stock i guess lol.
thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

shooter you just gotta get good tires, cut the kickstand off, and flip the rearsets and it races and leans fine

[X7rocks]

i wonder how much you have spent so far thinking_smilie

[swheels]

Shooter i already see it in my head.(finished)It's gonna be badass so i'm hating now.bluelaughbluelaugh

[The Nutty Professor]

Money what's that when it comes to the Mid's bows_smilie Shooter are you putting a lens over the lights?

[Shooter]

Shooter are you putting a lens over the lights?

YESSIR! cowboy
Not quite sure how I'm going to do the light housing, probably shape myself up a piece of foam and take it from there, as for the lens.....a local boneyard will suit me fine if what I have doesn't work

wow man that looks really good!thumbsup2
now im looking at my x15 and thinking "pos! why dont u look as good as his?" lol
keep up the work man!

I don't believe any of these bikes to be considered a POS .........after all, look at what I started withthumbsup2

Here is one of the pics again of the color I want to make my bike ......I'm sure by now y'all can see where I'm trying to go with this thingrock2
Hey! I just noticed the Cheers emoticon is gone! Well, Cheers too!

[Shooter]

Got my other lighthole dremeled out this morning.
Now I'm going to try working on the bezel for the lights and see what happensthumbsup2

[taz6346]

Fair play, your doing a great job, keep it upthumbsup2

[Shooter]

I didn't want to just disappear and have everyone wondering what happened to Shooter. The long and short of it is that I tried to rush things, be cheap, and take some shortcuts wave_finger........ I knew better and should have just done it right the first time. No major problems though, just time.
I got one mock-up down, another one to go.
This is the progress as of right now.armyguy

[mishka]

that looks nice man!!! are u going to have a cover for the head lights?
man i cant wait to see it finished!!!!thumbsup2
im going crazy herespeechless33 lol
this makes me want to go work on my bike.. later lol gotta go finish my rear fairing lol

[Shooter]

that looks nice man!!! are u going to have a cover for the head lights?
man i cant wait to see it finished!!!!thumbsup2
im going crazy herespeechless33 lol
this makes me want to go work on my bike.. later lol gotta go finish my rear fairing lol

Shooter are you putting a lens over the lights?

Yep!
rock2

[stuntnx7]

nice dude....killer lookn.....what im wondering is, are you gonna make it flush or some other tricks goin on

[x19soysauce]

dam shooter thas asome keep it up

[mishka]

any updates? im dieing over here lol bluelaugh

[x19soysauce]

ya me to lol we cant rush him though his his project not ours we want it to look good

[stuntnx7]

would be nice huh...moon1 <<<heres something to look at while you wait....LOL

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

is it me, or is mishka turning into a project ho?
dude finish something!!!moon1
bluelaughbluelaughbluelaugh

[mishka]

is it me, or is mishka turning into a project ho?
dude finish something!!!moon1
bluelaughbluelaugh

haha its just you!!!!!moon1
lol i dont want to make anymore promises.
so dont even think of this as a project( even tho it kinda is)
its going to be just between me lol. i know you guys are tired of
me always making new projects so if i know for sure im going to finish
this i MIGHT tell you lol

[x19soysauce]

how how many have u stoped and started

[mishka]

how how many have u stoped and started

only like........this is the third one lol

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

jus playin, do you get to ride anymore?
i know nutty has got to be fiending to ride

[mishka]

i havent been riding for like 8-9months now.. lol angry_red

[Shooter]

any updates? im dieing over here lol bluelaugh

ya me too lol we can't rush him though it's his project not ours we want it to look good

I've been reading everyone's posts about pipes and motors and everything else, oh my..........and I like that muffler Nutty mentioned earlier and something about a 150cc, yeah, that I can like, but would probably be safer with a 140 if I ever got the balls to race such a prizecrazy_smilie
ANYWAY...... I got pics of the light bezels, but I was going to wait until I could put a watermark on them but am finding I'm not computer literate enough to be able to do it, oh well.
Here are the pics I can show you guys for now,
The first is my plaster and Bondo bust showing the different stages of plastic shaping.
The second is the permanent installation.
The third is my MN (Midbike Nation) watermark logo

[mishka]

looks really good man.
are you going to color match the head lights with the body color?
thumbsup2

[NoFearX18]

obviously im late to this thread but omg!

1. those are the hottest wheels I've seen!
2. Swing arm looks sick!!!
3. Bike looked awsome!
4. The headlights are looking cool

bows_smilie
unbelievable looking man! coolest thread ive seen in a LONG time on all the sites ive been on!

keep it up i cant wait to see more!!thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

man that front end is off the hook
you got a lot of patience, that is beyond my ability

[The Nutty Professor]

Hey shooter I went to Home Depot and looked for Plastic Fusion and couldn't find anything labeled that way. There were a few products with the words plastic epoxy buut not that specific label. One of my projects is to make a gas tank that sits lower in the chassis. Making one of PVC panels and coating the inside seems dead simple. I can also make a airbox of the same stuff. Make a mistake and start again. When I get it right then either carbon fiber or kevlar.

[Shooter]

Hey shooter I went to Home Depot and looked for Plastic Fusion and couldn't find anything labeled that way. There were a few products with the words plastic epoxy buut not that specific label.

Here is a pic of what it looks like. Costs about 3 and a half bucks. Should be able to find it among the epoxies and other various glues. If all else fails there's always customer service.

[The Nutty Professor]

Nope they didn't have that one. I guess I'll have to try another store. They had a few empty spaces at that one.

[Shooter]

Did some work on one of the lenses today.
Here is the progress.
When the lights are installed they will be stepped just like the ones on the sportbikes. The inside will also be painted but I'm not sure just what color it will be at this point and time.
More to come.
Enjoy!rock2

[x19soysauce]

asome shooter it looks cool how much time do u spend on it a day? cause your stlll on the light althogh i have no idea how long that would take your doin good man cant wait to see it done thumbsup2

[mishka]

wow thats cool great! i like that a lot.i wasn't sure how you would be able to make then but it looks sweet! What is your job? do you work at some body shop or something?

[Shooter]

asome shooter it looks cool how much time do u spend on it a day? cause your stlll on the light althogh i have no idea how long that would take your doin good man cant wait to see it done thumbsup2

You asked a real good question Soy, I can spend all day on something like this but I have to add that I also get distracted by jumping on the computer or turning on the TV. Must be attention deficit disorder or something:confused:
Well, it took time to make the inserts because I had to make a solid bust and the design is irregular, then I had to shape the plastic around the bust, and then I had to make those inserts fit with the shape of the fairing. The headlight lens was sort of the same thing but I"m using a different plastic and again, making the bust is like creating an original because it is shaped and fitted just as the original should do, this is what makes it time consuming.
These lights are what's going to take the longest because of the complexity or should I say level of difficulty, the rest will go a lot faster.rock2

[Shooter]

wow thats cool great! i like that a lot.i wasn't sure how you would be able to make then but it looks sweet! What is your job? do you work at some body shop or something?

I am a published artist.
I own my own window cleaning business.
This is how I'm making the best of my situation and right now I'm at peace with myself.

[x19soysauce]

cool man hope u do somin cool im doing a asome paint job on mine when it warms up around sprong its going to be smokeing hot you will see lol

[wickedwindwalker]

This is the first time i've had the chance to look at this thread, and I have to say that you have one hell of a talent! bows_smilie I've thought about modifying the fairings on my x-18, just to try to make my lighting a little bigger, brighter, and more noticeable, and from what i see here i can get a pretty good idea as to what I'm looking forward to. I like the stepped design that you are going for. And the color you were going for really pops in the sunlight. Props on the work, can't wait to see more! thumbsup2

[Shooter]

Here's the halo's guys!
I promised you all something nicethumbsup2

[rene13]

its looking good shooterthumbsup2.

[swheels]

That look so good it makes me wanna put headlights on my bike.

[Shooter]

its looking good shooterthumbsup2.

That look so good it makes me wanna put headlights on my bike.

Thanks guys, remember, I can change the Halo's from any of 7 different colors all by the push of a buttonthumbsup2 This nice little feature makes these cool lights versatile to many different ideas and paint schemesthinking_smilie

[mishka]

nice man that looks greatthumbsup2

[The Nutty Professor]

Patient and talent goes a long way. Great work Shooter bows_smilie Custom one off Mid's are in your future I can see.

[wickedwindwalker]

Excellent work. You are the man!smokin_pimp

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

speechless33holy crap is all i can say
people might actually see you with those lights
im still waiting on some nut to put in a stereo, ive thought about it so i know others have
imagine hearing some bass then seeing a mid roll bybluelaugh

[stuntnx7]

speechless33holy crap is all i can say
people might actually see you with those lights
im still waiting on some nut to put in a stereo, ive thought about it so i know others have
imagine hearing some bass then seeing a mid roll bybluelaugh




haha pimpn......id like to see a tv on one....hey shooter that setup is lookin clean.....id like to see that light and fairings with DB bars and a short windscreen......


i just looked at the old pic.....man, what a diamond in the rough this bike was....

[Shooter]

haha pimpn......id like to see a tv on one,
i just looked at the old pic.....man, what a diamond in the rough this bike was....

Well, I'm installing the carbon GP style mirrors from PBU ...... let me tell you guys, PBU advertises these mirrors as carbon fiber, but these mirrors are nothing more than a printed carbon look laminate. It kinda peed me off at first when I discovered they weren't carbon as PBU advertised but then I decided that I'll just deal with it instead of having to deal with the hassle. I bring up the mirrors because I was thinking that if it were possible I would install in my mirrors the little tv screens like those that are in the rear view mirror of the cars ....... Shaquille O'Neal has these on his custom Busa "Big Benjamins".
I was planning on something for tunes but right now I'm not quite sure where all this power is going to come from.
The lights were my problem as of now, the rest can come later.
I'm glad y'all are happy with the results so farrock2

[The Nutty Professor]

Shooter just about every mirror listed as carbon fiber in really carbon look. I think I've seen one pair and they're made for Ducati's of course. I think they cost $300 easy. speechless33 But they also had intergrated turn signals.

[wickedwindwalker]

Well, I'm installing the carbon GP style mirrors from PBU ...... let me tell you guys, PBU advertises these mirrors as carbon fiber, but these mirrors are nothing more than a printed carbon look laminate. It kinda peed me off at first when I discovered they weren't carbon as PBU advertised but then I decided that I'll just deal with it instead of having to deal with the hassle. I bring up the mirrors because I was thinking that if it were possible I would install in my mirrors the little tv screens like those that are in the rear view mirror of the cars ....... Shaquille O'Neal has these on his custom Busa "Big Benjamins".
I was planning on something for tunes but right now I'm not quite sure where all this power is going to come from.
The lights were my problem as of now, the rest can come later.
I'm glad y'all are happy with the results so farrock2

HAH! Thats awesome. I'd love to have a t.v. screen in one of my mirrors!

[Shooter]

I finally decided to put the mirrors on the bike.
I can do without these things but I can live with 'em.
I think smaller would have been better but I guess I can make these things work.
Okay, Okay, I'm still trying to convince myself these things will look good on the bike after all is said and done!
There, I said itcrazy_smilie
The Terminator is just a shirt I have, I was just trying to get a feel for the color and what it sort of might look like.

[swheels]

Dude with your talent you can make some mirrors.And i bet they will be tottally tricked.thumbsup2

[Mybusa88]

man shooter I might have to go back to the drawing board. well I am not going to make it for this months poll but I will be ready 4 next month.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

personally i dont mirrors but yours are in a good spot, not so high up on the fairing, it looks good lower
like the terminator too
the lights are sik

[Shooter]

man shooter I might have to go back to the drawing board. well I am not going to make it for this months poll but I will be ready 4 next month.

I'm not sure if that is good or bad, I'll assume good and that I'm giving you ideas thinking_smilie
I like the looks of the 'Busa and Gixxer if I could manage to head somewhere in that sort of direction bodywise but still make it my own.
My wife has been riding me alot cause she wants to see this thing running, me too but I've been incredibly patient about the whole thing.
I should have titled the thread "Diary of a madman" the way this thing is going, ha ha ha

[Shooter]

personally i dont mirrors but yours are in a good spot, not so high up on the fairing, it looks good lower
like the terminator too
the lights are sik

Blitz, I know you don't like the mirrors, I saw your comment on Rome's bike about his mirrors, but saying this, I don't think I'm all that crazy about them, maybe I just need to give myself some time to adjust to them.
Other than that, I'm glad you like the rest of the bikerock2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

no dog, i like yours
they are different than romes plus i was just talkin crap to him tee hee
i like that yours are lower and dont look like big ears

[wickedwindwalker]

I like the graphic in your windshield.thumbsup2
Did you take it to a paint shop or do it yourself?

[Shooter]

I like the graphic in your windshield.thumbsup2
Did you take it to a paint shop or do it yourself?

Naw, it's just a shirt I had that I placed over the windscreen to get some ideas for color and what-not.
I didn't mean to confuse anyone, was just tryin' to have some fun in the ideas dept.thinking_smilierock2

[Midbike Racer]

Yes shooter, I really like the look of the terminator in the windscreen area.
Cool mirrors too.

[wickedwindwalker]

Why u gets tricksy wit us? I really liked the terminator windshield. What mirrors are those, btw?

[rene13]

Well, I'm installing the carbon GP style mirrors from PBU ...... let me tell you guys, PBU advertises these mirrors as carbon fiber, but these mirrors are nothing more than a printed carbon look laminate. It kinda peed me off at first when I discovered they weren't carbon as PBU advertised but then I decided that I'll just deal with it instead of having to deal with the hassle. I bring up the mirrors because I was thinking that if it were possible I would install in my mirrors the little tv screens like those that are in the rear view mirror of the cars ....... Shaquille O'Neal has these on his custom Busa "Big Benjamins".
I was planning on something for tunes but right now I'm not quite sure where all this power is going to come from.
The lights were my problem as of now, the rest can come later.
I'm glad y'all are happy with the results so farrock2

I was planning something similar for my bike. For your mirrors you can use a 2.5 inch screen from ebay(they can be used with backup cameras that have night vision) http://cgi.ebay.com/2-5-inch-TFT-Color-LCD-Monitor-4-wireless-camera-car_W0QQitemZ290206985795QQihZ019QQcategoryZ48635Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem and here are the cameras http://cgi.ebay.com/Flush-Mount-Night-Vision-Rearview-Backup-Camera-3-6mm_W0QQitemZ350024660583QQihZ022QQcategoryZ32826Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem now for the power issue. I going to eventually get a betteer stator that puts out more power from trailtech.net

[Shooter]

I was planning something similar for my bike. For your mirrors you can use a 2.5 inch screen from ebay(they can be used with backup cameras that have night vision) http://cgi.ebay.com/2-5-inch-TFT-Color-LCD-Monitor-4-wireless-camera-car_W0QQitemZ290206985795QQihZ019QQcategoryZ48635Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem and here are the cameras http://cgi.ebay.com/Flush-Mount-Night-Vision-Rearview-Backup-Camera-3-6mm_W0QQitemZ350024660583QQihZ022QQcategoryZ32826Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem now for the power issue. I going to eventually get a betteer stator that puts out more power from trailtech.net

You better not go anywhere for a real long time.........I may really need your assistance!
I've been looking around for the 2.5 inch monitor/mirrors and found only a couple at most, what I don't know is can those back up monitors show a feed from a dvd player or do I have to get crafty?
I'm really considering an iridium windscreen, I have something like this attachment in mind, or do y'all think I should just paint the whole thing along with the rest of the bike?

[rene13]

Some mentioned a sound system. You will need a better stator or extra battery for power. Don't forget these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chrome-Amplified-Waterproof-Motorcycle-Speakers-100Watt_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35557QQihZ006QQ itemZ160206761757QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW and your MP3 player. For my bike I'm planning to use a UMPC(handheld pc) and potable harddrive with those speakers and all the goodies (phone, GPS, Internet)

[rene13]

You better not go anywhere for a real long time.........I may really need your assistance!
I've been looking around for the 2.5 inch monitor/mirrors and found only a couple at most, what I don't know is can those back up monitors show a feed from a dvd player or do I have to get crafty?
I'm really considering an iridium windscreen, I have something like this attachment in mind, or do y'all think I should just paint the whole thing along with the rest of the bike? I would go with the windscreen. Now to answer your question. If you look at the 2.5 screen it has RCA jacks now if you want to hook something else besides the camera, I would use these.

Oh they would tkae a signal from a DVD player, I would something a lil more compact for your media. The rca thing is, if you wanted to run to two thing to them, but then you would have to be able to switch one of them off.

[The Nutty Professor]

By no means am I saying you need to change the mirrors but you really sound like you don't like them...right or wrong? There were a set make or sold by Lockhart-Phillips that where a lot small but still had a little style to them. If I can find a photo of them I'll pass it on. Oh just a little detail bling. Did you know you can get a colored chain? There are colors other than gold. I think red, blue, green, and black are available. Just throwing that out there. Keep it up. This makes me want a race bike and a show bike and I'm not into the bling at all. I love a pretty race bike but to me that's not bling that poetry in motion.

[rene13]

Shooter, before I came across my K2 smart shock I was thinking of bagging the bike, the front is what made me think; the rear is a piece of cake.:)

[Shooter]

You know Nutt, the mirrors really aren't all that bad.
I guess my problem is that they seem rather big and a bit intrusive.
I wanted the mirrors to sit a bit low to give it a better flow with the bike but at the same time not have them compete with the headlights. I guess I'm just being a little over-sensitive because the mirrors seem so close to the lights. I'm sure once things get painted this won't bother me so much but I'll admit that as I write this and look at the bike it really doesn't seem so bad.
There are other more important problems I need to worry about with the bike anyways, like my motor, I haven't even tried to start it yetcrazy_smilie

[Shooter]

Shooter, before I came across my K2 smart shock I was thinking of bagging the bike, the front is what made me think; the rear is a piece of cake.:)

Rene, you know you got my attention, now I'm beginning to think you're trying to distract me, LOL
You're puttin' up some nice stuff and the ideas are ridiculously mad, exactly what us showbike guys lose sleep over!
If we ever finish our bikes the way we want to we will no doubt create a buzz in the cycle world.
I'm thinking that when I finish this bike I'm going to submit pics and all the history and what-not to 2wheeltuner and see if they won't put a pic of it in their rider pics pages, an article dedicated to mids would be betterthinking_smilierock2

[Shooter]

This makes me want a race bike and a show bike and I'm not into the bling at all. I love a pretty race bike but to me that's not bling that poetry in motion.

Poetry in motion!
Couldn't say it any better myself!
Nothing like a fast bike that also looks good!
I never thought I was one that was into the bling but the bike's proving me wrong ......... I'm addicted and my bike is riding ME for all that I got!
LOL

[stuntnx7]

You know Nutt, the mirrors really aren't all that bad.
I guess my problem is that they seem rather big and a bit intrusive.
I wanted the mirrors to sit a bit low to give it a better flow with the bike but at the same time not have them compete with the headlights. I guess I'm just being a little over-sensitive because the mirrors seem so close to the lights. I'm sure once things get painted this won't bother me so much but I'll admit that as I write this and look at the bike it really doesn't seem so bad.
There are other more important problems I need to worry about with the bike anyways, like my motor, I haven't even tried to start it yetcrazy_smilie




dude you havnt even rode the bike.....weird.....all that bling isnt worth a dime unless you actually ride the bike and show it off......GET OUT ON THE BIKE AND RIDE

[Shooter]

dude you havnt even rode the bike.....weird.....all that bling isnt worth a dime unless you actually ride the bike and show it off......GET OUT ON THE BIKE AND RIDE

Yeah I know, it's kinda my motivator to get the bike done.
I'm not quite sure what I want for a motor just yet and it has to be something that will allow me to run electric start and all sorts of other crap.
My thoughts were to do all the modding to the bodywork and then while I have the bodywork off for paint this is when all the magic is done to the engine and at the same time I can change out the swingarm.
As for right now while I'm doing all this modding with the body, the bike isn't going anywhere.
I hope this sort of explains some of my backword way of thinking.
I do feel ya about riding the thing, but like I said, not allowing myself to ride it is my motivator to get this project done, and my mission is to do just that.
When I finally finish it Midbike Racer has first honors and then the show begins.

[rene13]

You know stunt, when I first started my bike, I rode her maybe an hour tops and parked her and went to work. It didn't bother me that I wasn't riding. When I pull up to a gas station to fill her up and nobody jaw drops because we have done everythig you can do to a full-size bike but half the size, thats what bothers me. LOL
I have been pulled over so cops can take pictures of her. Thats priceless!

[Midbike Racer]

When I finally finish it Midbike Racer has first honors and then the show begins.
Wow!
bows_smilieshooter

[stuntnx7]

You know stunt, when I first started my bike, I rode her maybe an hour tops and parked her and went to work. It didn't bother me that I wasn't riding. When I pull up to a gas station to fill her up and nobody jaw drops because we have done everythig you can do to a full-size bike but half the size, thats what bothers me. LOL
I have been pulled over so cops can take pictures of her. Thats priceless!





you need to ride wheelies....... my bike looks good when im riding on one wheel doin a 1 footer...rock2...LOL....


ride your bikes people....do wheelies and go fast...who cares what a bike looks like

[rene13]

you need to ride wheelies....... my bike looks good when im riding on one wheel doin a 1 footer...rock2...LOL....


ride your bikes people....do wheelies and go fast...who cares what a bike looks like

"To each his own."thumbsup2

[Shooter]

I think highchairs are rather impressive, kinda reminds me of when we did cherrypickers on the freestyle bikes some 20 years ago, but I guess we all know what we like.
I like the stunting ....... to watch it now that is!
I've slowed down a bit and enjoy the more creative side of my talents which is where I'm focusing more of my energy.
Like Rene said though ........... to each his ownthumbsup2

[stuntnx7]

I think highchairs are rather impressive, kinda reminds me of when we did cherrypickers on the freestyle bikes some 20 years ago, but I guess we all know what we like.
I like the stunting ....... to watch it now that is!
I've slowed down a bit and enjoy the more creative side of my talents which is where I'm focusing more of my energy.
Like Rene said though ........... to each his ownthumbsup2




its all good to make a bike look cool but im just saying your missing out on the real reason you got a bike......mods can be done netime.....rainy days, when your bored one day, or when your just out of gas and broke and already have the stuff you need right there....LOL.....



oh yea and its more fun to ride the bike through each stage of the modification process....feels like a new bike everytime....

[rene13]

I'm planning to get my frame powder coated one I weld on my exhaust mount. The color is going to be chrome. This was what I look like when I seen it.speechless33speechless33speechless33

[rene13]

My next thing is my onboard computer. I want to see if I can get a friend of mine to get a UMPC (handheld PC) to adjust the CDI on my bike and of course use it for all my media needs.crazy_smilie

[wickedwindwalker]

My next thing is my onboard computer. I want to see if I can get a friend of mine to get a UMPC (handheld PC) to adjust the CDI on my bike and of course use it for all my media needs.crazy_smilie

I like the UMPC idea, but IMO I think it would be rather bulky. Which UMPC were you thinking of using?

[stuntnx7]

I'm planning to get my frame powder coated one I weld on my exhaust mount. The color is going to be chrome. This was what I look like when I seen it.speechless33speechless33speechless33


powder coat chrome....why not real chrome

[rene13]

powder coat chrome....why not real chrome Powder last longer, durable

I like the UMPC idea, but IMO I think it would be rather bulky. Which UMPC were you thinking of using?
The sony http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Vaio-UX390n-UMPC-SSD-with-Extended-Battery_W0QQitemZ230223987946QQihZ013QQcategoryZ14 0084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
or maybe an IPhone.

[DeezNutz]

You better not go anywhere for a real long time.........I may really need your assistance!
I've been looking around for the 2.5 inch monitor/mirrors and found only a couple at most, what I don't know is can those back up monitors show a feed from a dvd player or do I have to get crafty?
I'm really considering an iridium windscreen, I have something like this attachment in mind, or do y'all think I should just paint the whole thing along with the rest of the bike?



On your pic..... I Want to know where you can find that front with the lights and visor shield.... where where where where !!>!>!>!!>!>

[The Nutty Professor]

Powder last longer, durable


The sony http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Vaio-UX390n-UMPC-SSD-with-Extended-Battery_W0QQitemZ230223987946QQihZ013QQcategoryZ14 0084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
or maybe an IPhone.


If you could intergrate your gauges into it that would be smokin'. In otherwords your gauges would display on the screen until you switched to a different function or display.

[rene13]

If you could intergrate your gauges into it that would be smokin'. In otherwords your gauges would display on the screen until you switched to a different function or display.

Alright I'll spill the beans. Thats exactly what I have in mind Nutty P and it will have a biometric security feature so only my finger print can start her. I'm also thinking of installing a GPS module(kinda like lo jack), hands free phone, Internet, etc. (hi tech goodies) This should be in by next winter.(hopefully)
So without the UMPC the bike can not do anything. Let's see what happens.thinking_smilie

[x19soysauce]

lol now why the hell would u want a cell phone its going to be louder then hell while your riding man

[stuntnx7]

Alright I'll spill the beans. Thats exactly what I have in mind Nutty P and it will have a biometric security feature so only my finger print can start her. I'm also thinking of installing a GPS module(kinda like lo jack), hands free phone, Internet, etc. (hi tech goodies) This should be in by next winter.(hopefully)
So without the UMPC the bike can not do anything. Let's see what happens.thinking_smilie



u been watching american chopper...LOL

[The Nutty Professor]

Sounds like with Rene and Shooter we're going to have to have our own Mid Bike "Riddler" type competition thinking_smilie

[Shooter]

You know, I was really trying my damnedest to reshape my body without feeling the need of having to use Bondo.
With all the plastic fabricating in the world and the knowledge I have on using it, there are just some things that are better off being filled.
I never liked the diamond-cut openings on the fairings of the X15 and I definately don't like the wavy fin design behind the seat........ these things will absolutely be changed.
What I never quite understood about the Binelli, or um, X15, is why they designed the nose-to-side fairing the way they did..... the side fairing has this nicely shaped curved design heading up toward the nose, but halfway through the flow of the design just stops and the rest just looks cut back (good one there in the wind resistance dept. guys!).
Overall, the more I look at the design of the thing the more it looks like a fish.
Because of some of the shaping thats going to be involved, I decided that I am going to break down and use the friggin' Bondo where I feel it's needed, and it's quicker and cheaper to work with too.
My plan is to follow through with that curve of fixing that desing flaw, close off the diamond-cut openings, create other openings and curve edges more like the 'Busa to keep with that beefy feel.
Oh yeah baby.......... are ya feelin' me now?

[Mybusa88]

Alright I'll spill the beans. Thats exactly what I have in mind Nutty P and it will have a biometric security feature so only my finger print can start her. I'm also thinking of installing a GPS module(kinda like lo jack), hands free phone, Internet, etc. (hi tech goodies) This should be in by next winter.(hopefully)
So without the UMPC the bike can not do anything. Let's see what happens.thinking_smilie

I think that the vibration would be to much for that little PC

[Crazyj15692]

What type of paint did you use to paint the swingarm???

[The Nutty Professor]

To tell you the truth Shooter your bike design (Origanal Mid Bike factory design not your's) was half done. The cutout between the seat and the fairing is not supposed to be there. The Benelli Tornado had a few innovations that dictated some of the body design. The radiators where under the seat and air was ducted from the front to the rear through the 2 slits in the upper fairing and along the body right where they (Mid design) cut the two halfs apart. Maybe you can see it in the first photo. That carbon fiber piece is the air duct. In the second photo look above the riders heel and you can see the radiator pan and the duct. On the rear where the Mid has it's exhaust that is where the cooling fans where. They drew air through the system and pulled it out the back. The exhaust was a side mount system not under seat.

[rene13]

I think that the vibration would be to much for that little PC
Its going in a shock box. trust me everything has been planned accordingly.thinking_smilie

[rene13]

You know, I was really trying my damnedest to reshape my body without feeling the need of having to use Bondo.
With all the plastic fabricating in the world and the knowledge I have on using it, there are just some things that are better off being filled.
I never liked the diamond-cut openings on the fairings of the X15 and I definately don't like the wavy fin design behind the seat........ these things will absolutely be changed.
What I never quite understood about the Binelli, or um, X15, is why they designed the nose-to-side fairing the way they did..... the side fairing has this nicely shaped curved design heading up toward the nose, but halfway through the flow of the design just stops and the rest just looks cut back (good one there in the wind resistance dept. guys!).
Overall, the more I look at the design of the thing the more it looks like a fish.
Because of some of the shaping thats going to be involved, I decided that I am going to break down and use the friggin' Bondo where I feel it's needed, and it's quicker and cheaper to work with too.
My plan is to follow through with that curve of fixing that desing flaw, close off the diamond-cut openings, create other openings and curve edges more like the 'Busa to keep with that beefy feel.
Oh yeah baby.......... are ya feelin' me now?
de it will look sweet.

[Shooter]

What type of paint did you use to paint the swingarm???

Dupli-color Orange Mist spray paint found at AutoZone.
Eventually I'm going to get rid of the swingarm and install an extended one that's polished aluminum or ?

To tell you the truth Shooter your bike design (Origanal Mid Bike factory design not your's) was half done. The cutout between the seat and the fairing is not supposed to be there. The Benelli Tornado had a few innovations that dictated some of the body design. The radiators where under the seat and air was ducted from the front to the rear through the 2 slits in the upper fairing and along the body right where they (Mid design) cut the two halfs apart. Maybe you can see it in the first photo. That carbon fiber piece is the air duct. In the second photo look above the riders heel and you can see the radiator pan and the duct. On the rear where the Mid has it's exhaust that is where the cooling fans where. They drew air through the system and pulled it out the back. The exhaust was a side mount system not under seat.
What Binelli did with the fans in back was pretty ingenius, somebody actually did their homework.
One of the design probs. I see with the X15 design in up front behind the front wheel, the curve of the opening is nice at the bottom but halfway up it stops and then just cuts back, here's the pic, hopefully this can point it out a little better.

[Crazyj15692]

Is all you had to do spray the paint on or is there other steps?

[The Nutty Professor]

Dupli-color Orange Mist spray paint found at AutoZone.
Eventually I'm going to get rid of the swingarm and install an extended one that's polished aluminum or ?


What Binelli did with the fans in back was pretty ingenius, somebody actually did their homework.
One of the design probs. I see with the X15 design in up front behind the front wheel, the curve of the opening is nice at the bottom but halfway up it stops and then just cuts back, here's the pic, hopefully this can point it out a little better.

Yeah I noticed the gaping maw bluelaugh I wasn't sure what you where going to do with it. If you close it down to much it might cause a overheating problem with the motor dunno But a oil cooler and a ducted fan should handle that? LOLOLOL here I go designing problems into Shooter bike and I have no idea where he's going with it. I guess I don't want to be alone...I'm having a few engineering problems of my own with TN.

[NoFearX18]

man i love that bike

[Shooter]

LOLOLOL here I go designing problems into Shooter bike and I have no idea where he's going with it. I guess I don't want to be alone...I'm having a few engineering problems of my own with TN.

It's all good Nuttythumbsup2
It's been a while since we put our heads together and shared some real ideas.
Because of living in Phoenix one would think that having an oil cooled 2 stroke would be better, which it probably is, but I'm thinking of something along the lines of a 140cc or 150cc 4 stroke and I don't want to have to get into mixing my fuel and stuff.
An oil cooler wouldn't be a bad investment though.
I'll share more of my progress when I get my camera back.

[mishka]

niceee keep us updated.thumbsup2

[stuntnx7]

Powder last longer, durable


The sony http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Vaio-UX390n-UMPC-SSD-with-Extended-Battery_W0QQitemZ230223987946QQihZ013QQcategoryZ14 0084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
or maybe an IPhone.



no it doesnt last longer......it gets dull lookin if you wipe it down alot....chrome will be there for alot of years no matter how much you wipe it.....powder coat wont be there but for a few years if you wipe it alot.....ive got it on my dragster and ive seen how powder coats fades after a few years



you can tell it real good on the splatter coats.....my freind had silver base with black specs and the black specs started rubbing off after a few years

[rene13]

no it doesnt last longer......it gets dull lookin if you wipe it down alot....chrome will be there for alot of years no matter how much you wipe it.....powder coat wont be there but for a few years if you wipe it alot.....ive got it on my dragster and ive seen how powder coats fades after a few years



you can tell it real good on the splatter coats.....my freind had silver base with black specs and the black specs started rubbing off after a few years

I'm talking about the stuff thats baked on. You sure that was powder.

[stuntnx7]

I'm talking about the stuff thats baked on. You sure that was powder.



yea powder coat is sprayed on then put in an oven......

[The Nutty Professor]

And powder coat is prone to chipping. I like it myself. It's real tough but it will chip. I haven't seen it peel back from a chipped spot but it the job is done half arse I could see that happening. There's a new thing (At least I'm told it's new) out that's a combination of both. It's called Black Chrome. First they chrome dip your part then they spray on a translucent black powder coat. It looks like watered down black dye. Then they bake it. I call it smoked chrome because that's what it look's like. When I heard about it I thought that going to look like crap but when I saw it I was very impressed.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

they have a new style of spray on chrome here im lookin into, i have to go talk to the guy still but it looks promising
if not then i just need to go get it dipped, chrome is king of blingthumbsup2

[Mybusa88]

well well well I see some body has been doing their homework. There are a couple of spray on chrome but in my travels I hav found that only one type works real good and does not fade. I am getting my x-12 done as we speak.

[rene13]

So shooter which one will work better for ram air the stock vent under the X-18 nose cowl or some custom made ferrari vent in the side fairings? These are going to be functional ram air vents (ducts).

[Shooter]

So shooter which one will work better for ram air the stock vent under the X-18 nose cowl or some custom made ferrari vent in the side fairings? These are going to be functional ram air vents (ducts).

It's all about getting air, right?
So why not a little bit of both?

[The Nutty Professor]

well well well I see some body has been doing their homework. There are a couple of spray on chrome but in my travels I hav found that only one type works real good and does not fade. I am getting my x-12 done as we speak.


As soon as you get her back post a couple "good" photo's so we can see the work. No offence to our photo challenged out there moon1 Just kidding guys really.

Nice new avatar Shooter.

[stuntnx7]

So shooter which one will work better for ram air the stock vent under the X-18 nose cowl or some custom made ferrari vent in the side fairings? These are going to be functional ram air vents (ducts).



the front if you want any kind of RAM going on......the side vent will just let colder air in and wont ram it in....but were not really going fast enough for it to make a difference really....but the front would work better if it does

[Mybusa88]

As soon as you get her back post a couple "good" photo's so we can see the work. No offence to our photo challenged out there moon1 Just kidding guys really.

Nice new avatar Shooter.

I will try to get some good pic I might be photo challenged as well. banghead
I got to get my bike in before shooter gets his in for next months poll. LOL.