USMGP at Middle Georgia Poll

[USMGP1]

I would love to put on another event this season but since the funds at VIR were not what they should have been. I would like to propose a winner take all National Championship final event. I want to know who will come for SURE! The track is new and very nice. The basics are if you win the final you win the USMGP National Championship.Now should we do this or not? It is up to you. I think we should be able to keep the costs down below what the VIR costs were.I will need to book the track if this is going to happen. So get going on your input. We need 60 riders for this event. Should not be a problem the way I look at it. We will run the same setup we ran at VIR two days and all of our classes including Midbikes, Scooters & Mopeds if they show up. Do not post you are going to come if you are not I do not apprecaite people who say they are going to do something and then do not. Board racers are not welcome. So get off the keyboard and onto your bike!

Post your opinion(s)

Chuck

[FiveStarSky]

i think having these events at different tracks is a good idea, it allows different people to show up, Unfortunantly, Georgea is still a long drive for me (texas)

[RomanianRacer]

:DI: everyone lives on the east coast and thats were all the events are at.

Not to many mids out on the west coast, are there?

[FiveStarSky]

:DI: everyone lives on the east coast and thats were all the events are at.

Not to many mids out on the west coast, are there?

Afraid so, but since rene is moving back home (texas) i'm gonna see if i can talk him into hitting up a few TMGP events with me, i'm sure his 140 will hang alot better than my little 125 could

[stuntnx7]

how much is it to race for the people that might wanna go :dunno:

[swheels]

For me i would love to go.It all depends on when your thinking about having this event and if we can actually get some midbikers out there.I'm willing to bet the paocketbike guys will show in great numbers.(BTW) is this the track in DUblin Ga right.I am planning on make it down to checkout that track.thumbsup2.Even if it's just for some practice laps.

[USMGP1]

We are shooting for October dates for this event. It will be a two day event like we did at VIR. Nice track adn hopefully enough time to allow people to plan.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

if i can, i will be there

[GaRsNoW]

Lets get one going in michigan, or ohio!!!!

[stuntnx7]

how much is it to race for the people that might wanna go :dunno:




hmmm did my question get missed :dunno:

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

it prolly depends on the expected turn out stuntin

[The Nutty Professor]

45 minutes to a hour from the house and I have the whole month off hhhmmm I'll be there even if itlands me in divorce court Nutty-Rant

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i hope so, if i go all the way there and you dont show....well, uh nothing i guess
the race is what ALL THIS IS FOR, and you my man, have done a sheet load and are very deserving

[The Nutty Professor]

Yeah tell her that soap_box

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

reminds me of a joke:
what do you tell a woman with 2 black eyes?
nothin, you done told her twice
bluelaugh

[USMGP1]

I would like to ask all of the keyboard kings to come out instead oof riding the keys. Alot of people say they are coming snd then just do not show. You do not know how much fun you are missing. This race when it is set will be a winner take all USMGP NAtional Championship. So this os your chance to come out and show your skills on another top track. So get off your chairs and come out and race with us.
CHuck

[swheels]

Any idea what the fees are gonna be? As long as my finances are in order you know i'll be there.Plus i talked another xbike racer in to coming out to race.So that just sweetened the deal for me.I've been trying to get this guy back on a race track to race against me for awhile now.thumbsup2

5hr drive for me i can deal with that.HMM I wonder should i tell the XMR crew????

Well Chuck i hope we can get some peeps to show up especially from this forum here.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

will there be camping?

[The Nutty Professor]

I don't know but there's a rest stop not far away. I'll look and see what's allowed there.

[Shawnbassett26]

Im going to try to get Team BMS out in full force. Just hard to coordinate 5 guys. Thats a great track. Hope to be there.

On average, a race day (for us) cost about .....

Usually includes $25-75 for membership, $40-75 for registration, $10-20 (per person) for entry, $10-20 for transponder (if you dont have one), and $5-25 for racing extra classes.

It adds up very quick, not to mention gas, hotel, food.... the list goes on and on. All prices can vary depending on organization. So start saving, you got a few months. Hope to see other MBN members there.

~Shawn @ BMS

[The Nutty Professor]

Do they have a yearly membership Shawn?

[Shawnbassett26]

Im not sure, i assume so, but i have never raced this race.
~Shawn @ BMS

[swheels]

Im going to try to get Team BMS out in full force. Just hard to coordinate 5 guys. Thats a great track. Hope to be there.

On average, a race day (for us) cost about .....

Usually includes $25-75 for membership, $40-75 for registration, $10-20 (per person) for entry, $10-20 for transponder (if you dont have one), and $5-25 for racing extra classes.

It adds up very quick, not to mention gas, hotel, food.... the list goes on and on. All prices can vary depending on organization. So start saving, you got a few months. Hope to see other MBN members there.
~Shawn @ BMSAre these fees you speak of relates to the track in Dublin Ga.Or at the tracks you guys race at in your kneck of the woods?

[Shawnbassett26]

This is our day to day rates. All tracks cost differently and different organization costs are different as well. Im not sure how much the USMGP is but im sure there around what i posted.
~Shawn @ BMS

[cutlasskel]

The beauty of Chuck's (USMGP) stuff is it usually a set cost for the entire race weekend.
Between $120 and about $150 is what I have paid at several of his races all across the US over the years. This gets you track time on Saturday and Sunday. We have also been able to get track time on Friday at certain tracks. (It is usually up to the track owner, and they almost always want a little extra $)

** I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL COSTS WILL BE, I AM JUST SPEAKING FROM MY EXPERIENCES WITH THE USMGP RACES**

[swheels]

I was reading on another site that they now have showers and camping is availible.thumbsup2thumbsup2
The rates are so cheap.45.00 to ride all day.(the rates are from the track site not the usmgp event) Those guys are truly lucky that i don't live down there or within an hour or 2 of them.I'd be there so much they'd swear i was related to the family somehow.bluelaugh
You guys that live close enough and not taking advantage of this facility.Should be a shamed of yourselfs open 7 days a week to get all the track time you can get! That's my idea of heaven right there!

This is in oct. that should give plenty of time to make this one.
If you own an xbike would like to get out and race with other xbikes.Now t time to do it.The xbikes will have there own class if you guys show up.If not then you probably end up in a class racing against motards and probably getting your feelings hurt if your bike is not up to a 110% on the level.

check the link.http://www.middlegeorgiakarttrack.com/index.html

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

nice link S
map quest says 600 miles for me

[swheels]

So you think you might be able to make it.I'm only gonna go if there's going to be a good showing of xbikes.Atleast 4 or more otherwise i know there will be just 2 on the grid more than likely. How far are you from me?

You gotta love that track thought.

[swheels]

Ok got the word, It is definitly happening.thumbsup2thumbsup2
Josh Herrins family own this facility and incase some of the people don't know who he is.Here a vid of him racing the 1:1 bikes and then doing some laps on the family track. This could be some of you young and upcoming young bucs.Who could resist this?????Just click on the title of the vid above the screen.It will take you to the video.




Dailymotion - Josh Herrin between the races 08 a cribs type episode - a video

[FS211]

Ok got the word, It is definitly happening.thumbsup2thumbsup2
Josh Herrins family own this facility and incase some of the people don't know who he is.Here a vid of him racing the 1:1 bikes and then doing some laps on the family track. This could be some of you young and upcoming young bucs.Who could resist this?????Just click on the title of the vid above the screen.It will take you to the video.


heres a flick i had of him on my computer..... SICK!

[The Nutty Professor]

I'm looking to see what I can pull together to make the time easier for the long haul travelers. I'm close so maybe just maybe I can work out a few things with folks who own me and I never asked them ever for anything??? No promises but we'll see. One is a travel trailer or RV to chill in we'll see?

[swheels]

There are gonna have on site camping so it's no big deal.Plus i think i already reserved a hotel suite.Just incase the family come along.If Blitz and Herbert can't make it for some reason.
So Blitz if your gonna go you just make it on down to my house.Herbert is trying to come down from Ct my old racing buddy.We load up the mini van and haul azzzz down to ga.thumbsup2 Oh Josh herrin swept the weekend at Vir this past weekend. Infact the yamahas clean up bigtime in ama superbike,daytona sportbike and in motogp.DAM!

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

sweet
my mom just got a new rav4 so i should be ok for trans
funding is my issue, so we see, im trying tho

[swheels]

sweet
my mom just got a new rav4 so i should be ok for trans
funding is my issue, so we see, im trying thoOk well i hope you can make it.It will be great if we all get to travel down together.Herbert is a real cool guy and at the time i'd say a better rider than myself.LOL This is the guy i was talking about when we use to race.We would cut each other off so close and brake check.That it came to the point where we'd want to start through blows.bluelaugh. But instead go back out on the track and saying.Ok MF you try that move again and watch what i do.bluelaugh The sessions never got physical,we would just laugh and talk about the moves at the end. Been awhile since he was on a bike so.Like i told him i don't see him as a threat just playing catch up to the rest of the gang.LOL

[rene13]

Afraid so, but since rene is moving back home (texas) i'm gonna see if i can talk him into hitting up a few TMGP events with me, i'm sure his 140 will hang alot better than my little 125 could

correction my engine is a 125cc I do want a BBK but funds are tight now. I waiting on a axle from a member to put her back together.

[doug@xmr]

Board racers that about sums them upbangheadI like thatthumbsup2
I'll check the schedule, like to get out to some different tracks.
I'll bet this ones set up real nice since it Josh's family serious road racer.

[swheels]

Race dates are Oct.17 sat. and 18th.Open practice on fri. $45

Same setup and rules as vir and Fees $120.

[The Nutty Professor]

HAHA great the middle of the month meaning I will have worked for some good money by then and I'll probably get a hotel too! That is unless I get the RV thumbsup2

[Monster_Bike1780]

HAHA, im goin to this even, if this is the one in elgin GA, then i got my work cut out for me, cuz i see alot of tight turns in there, and the way my set up is, imma be screwed lol, but imma get out there and run with the other 110's and have sum serious fun

[swheels]

Alright ladies and gents! The 13 and 14th of march is the show down! At the middle Ga track! If you haven't been there this track makes VIR a thing of the past.bluelaugh If you have been there you already know what it is! Midbikes we need to put on a good show and Phil Herrin is welcoming us with open arms.He /they were very impressed with the midbikes that did show up. I can't wait to see what they think when they see the rest.thumbsup2

I will bring more details as i get them.Plus i think it's gonna be cheaper.thumbsup2

[Monster_Bike1780]

Alright ladies and gents! The 13 and 14th of march is the show down! At the middle Ga track! If you haven't been there this track makes VIR a thing of the past.bluelaugh If you have been there you already know what it is! Midbikes we need to put on a good show and Phil Herrin is welcoming us with open arms.He /they were very impressed with the midbikes that did show up. I can't wait to see what they think when they see the rest.thumbsup2

I will bring more details as i get them.Plus i think it's gonna be cheaper.thumbsup2

damn its gunna be cheaper??? lol just shoot me now!!! lolbanghead

[swheels]

Yes sir been watching some of the FIM races i have recorded.Can't wait to hit the track. Just something about watching and then makes ya wanna go out and carve up some turns.:yup:rock2rock2

[blackbird2xx]

I just got a new job, but if I can make it I will. If I go I will probably bring a couple of other guys from our group in Nashvillethumbsup2. We Changed our schedule so that members of our group could go if they wanted to.

[swheels]

I just got a new job, but if I can make it I will. If I go I will probably bring a couple of other guys from our group in Nashvillethumbsup2. We Changed our schedule so that members of our group could go if they wanted to.That would be great! I checked out some of the vids on the club site. Man i'm jealous because you got a good group there racing.Looks like everybody was enjoying themselves.thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

bike is almost together
are you bringing 2 bikes S?
i could possibly have the 18 ready too

[swheels]

bike is almost together
are you bringing 2 bikes S?
i could possibly have the 18 ready too You'll more than likely get your x18 together before i have the second bike done. So if you want to bring yours that's fine with me.thumbsup2

[swheels]

OK ladies! the dates have been pushed back to the 20th and the 21st of march.

There's gonna be prizes for 1st 2nd and 3rd place winners. So far i think 1st place is gonna be a pair of racing slicks 10".thumbsup2
It's gonna be so much track time that you guys might be ready to go home early because your tired. Now the fees includes all day pratice sat and raceday sun, gate fees and paramedic's fee for the $125. I was told that the owner of the track went up on his fee so.thumb_down If we would have stuck to the other dates.It would have been more expensive plus less track time.thumb_down Well i guess i'll see who ever shows up. Oh one more thing. There are going to be some ysr's showing up to race also and one of the racers told me he's gonna kick my A out on the track.LOL So i'm gonna have to make sure i get some good footage of this.LOL Hey you never know.:dunno:

[FiveStarSky]

mkay, i gotta throw my 2cents in, hopefully, if some ysr's do show, they are mildly hopped up, not full blown stock like the one from the last race of last season. i'd put my $ on your bike s if this guy is running a 50 motor, but i've seen a few ysrs that i think could destroy the mids here on a track (from a tech. aspect anyway) but most of the hopped up motor swapped ones i've seen are out on the west coast.

[swheels]

mkay, i gotta throw my 2cents in, hopefully, if some ysr's do show, they are mildly hopped up, not full blown stock like the one from the last race of last season. i'd put my $ on your bike s if this guy is running a 50 motor, but i've seen a few ysrs that i think could destroy the mids here on a track (from a tech. aspect anyway) but most of the hopped up motor swapped ones i've seen are out on the west coast. easier said than done. LOL Yeah there was a more than mild hopped up one there plus a mild hopped up all white ysr speedy Pete was riding. The built ysr was all red and only did a few laps during practice. I went by it very fast a few times. They put it away and it was never seen the rest of the weekend.:dunno:
I don't believe in this bike or that bike anymore. It's all about the setup:yup: proper setup will get you proper results(depending on the rider too). The mids are more agile and nimble.So on a tight course track a well setup mid will be very hard to beat atleast most of the mids over on this side.
Plus if i should ever make it to race out on the westside.I would build a mid for the more open and flowing tracks out that way.thumbsup2

[FiveStarSky]

west coast mid racing is like PB racing, crawling off the starting line, but once you get going just gotta keep your rpm's and cornering speed up. (since most of them uses full sized tracks) just keep it in top gear and dont let off the gas

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ill be happy to just see S with a good running bike
mine should be adequate enough to spank the ysrs, unless their riders can ride the wheels off them
im more interested in vs a few open class pbs
mmm slicks, i just want the rear
i just mounted my brand new slick i got from dub, its sweet
waiting on the race head, gonna try to get it dynoed before the race, im hoping for 14-15 hp
the 18 will have a stock 160

[swheels]

That's always the idea on any race track while your racing. Then when the bike won't hold it's line going in or out of a turn.Then that rider will have to re-think their strategy.Which sometimes(if not most)includes slowing down.

[FiveStarSky]

Well, there is not much insentive for a ysr to win anyway, unless they can swap out those 10" slicks for some 12's lol.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i like the satisfaction of whoopin that azz, then talking sheet about it, ya all my juvenile comes out lol
nah really its all good, i never won anything before so i dont think about that, its about representing and competing honorably for me, im not gonna dirty dog anybody to pass (haga takes out spies last year) pissed me off Nutty-Rant

[swheels]

Well, there is not much insentive for a ysr to win anyway, unless they can swap out those 10" slicks for some 12's lol. Ofcourse there is, the fact of winning. Besides the ysr vs mids vs pocketbikes to me is over with and long gone.The mids had something to prove only because they got bashed.Well as far as i've seen it's been proven that they can win against the so called better bikes.
There only flaw is the builder/rider/racer, and this could be said towards any machine.

I had one guy come up to me and stated " how in the hell can they ride those things, there Fkin horrorible!" He was out on the track testing out one of his friends ysr's. He also stated it was bouncy as hell and everytime he went into a turn.The the bike wanted to fall down. So you know i laughed my Arse off.This was coming from a guy that's use to riding those exspensive euro's.I thought to myself,you just described a stock midbike also.LOL
I'll say it again builder/rider is the determining factor.

[blackbird2xx]

Ok I have to weigh in on this. First Swheels I have a great deal of respect for what you and a few other guys on this site have done for midbikes. You said it really well because they are so cheap you have alot of urban riders who are only interested in stunting them then tossing them in the trash. another thing that you said I have to agree on is that set up is everything. This is a fact that that is missed by most. They think if they buy a few top shelf parts their bikes are set with out consideration of how the parts interact. There are only a couple people that I know that I would say use the same level of ingenuity. That being said if you guys are going to compair a ysr to a mid then lets do it the way a race organization would(like oyl or wera). A 107 cc 4 stroke bike would not be in the same class as a 49cc AIR cooled 2 stroke. A 49 cc liquid cooled 2 stroke yes. Bear with me guys this might take a while. I'm not trying to attack anybody just get everybody compairing apples to apples. What I am seeing is that alot of people are looking at this from a street prospetive of run what u brung, and in the race world that's not how it Now to address that video of an x-15 againts a ysr. It sounded like to me that the ysr needed a new top end, and the ysr rider(sorry if you're on here) sucked. I could have gotten around either of those guys easy. Horse power to horse power the stock ysr(with a fresh top end) is Slightly stronger than an x bike, but the torque on an x bike should be a bit higher(as it's a 4 stroke).Also a ysr is a little faster about 55mph stock(if it is in good condition) A ysr is easier to make track ready. fork kit from tcr 29 bucks and saftey wiring and new bearings and bushings and catch cans. The stock shock is ok if it has good bushings. The x bike need a little more attention. brakes rear shock, and are not easy to find people who will saftey wire them. Blitz and swheels in wera, and oyl you guys would be up against the 85cc liquid cooled 2 strokes, and I promise you they are not slow. They are in the 25 to 32 rwhp range, and up to a 17 inch rim. Can a totally stock x bike beat a totally stock ysr. It depends on the track and the rider, but they have an up hill battle on their hands. Tight track edge goes to the x bike. The more flowing tracks the edge goes to the ysr. All I'm saying is don't be guilty of the same sort of snobbery as the Jap bike riders showed you guys(not that I think Swheels is). Go ride and have fun. Just keep it in prospective. A 23 year old 49cc 2stroke is not as fast as a new 160cc 4 stroke. Like I said I am not wanting to step on toes. Just trying to give some prospective

[FiveStarSky]

yeah, blackbird, me and swheels had that shoot out a while back when i first got my ysr.

but, if your pretty unlimited in what you can run, more power to ya, it would just take a pant load of work to make an x keep up with the TMGP 'tards

TMGP standards.

F7 - 50cc 2T WaterCooled, 60cc 2T AirCooled, 110cc 4t AC
F6 - 65cc 2T 135cc 4t
F5 - 85cc 2t 150cc 4t

IMO, i think a rider who is comfortable on both (stock) bikes would be putting pretty similar lap times.

limited to 150cc's, X's would have to keep up with crf 150's, at least 2 super pissed off 150cc NSF, and kx85's seem to be the 2T of choice

[blackbird2xx]

It can be done thoughwave_finger. There is a guy at semrra that won the 136cc class points run on a mid, but he is a do it yourselfer. Which is what you have to be to race a mid and do well. For all of us other guys it's the jap bikes or nothing because you can take them to ANY dealership for service. When I had my x 19. I could'nt find anyone who would touch it. It was me or nothing. So I just went the lazy way 1 nsr50, 1 ysr with a yz85 motor, and 1 ysr with a 200cc 4 stroke.

[blackbird2xx]

I want there to be no misunderstandings here I have an x18 also,I just got it back(long story). I also intend to race it this season, but I am going to have to do the prep work myselfbanghead. I'll be racing against 2 or 3 64cc ysrs, and I would'nt do it if I didn't think I had a chance. I am going to install a 110cc light bore kit from chp, a pipe, a rev box, and brake/suspension work( the brakes are scaryspeechless33

[swheels]

I agree with ya Blackbird2xx. My comparisons are usually dollar for dollar.That's all i use to hear back in the day.Why waste your money on China crap.When you can get a good ysr for $1200 that will kill the China crap.LOL


If anything i'd build a midbike to race in that league and tracks that they run on. So if i'm placed in a class with 85cc 2 strokers.Then you can believe i'll build a mid and put an 85cc 2 stroker in the mid.
I built my current mid knowing that i'd be facing some of the supermoto's and some of these guys on their big motor mids.Oh and some of those really pricey pocketbikes.I never really thought about the ysr's because we really don't see them at the tracks we race at.

I really only wanted to race against other mids. Oh i've seen the vid of a motorized bicycle beating up on some mids. I thought that was the funniest thing i've ever seen.LOL

I'm thinking about getting a motard or a pocketbike to race next.The mids are fun but you just don't get enough of them showing up to race.There are 2 good tracks that are 2hrs away from me.But have to travel like 7hrs away to try and race against maybe 4 other mids.LOLcrazy_smilie

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

Blitz and swheels in wera, and oyl you guys would be up against the 85cc liquid cooled 2 strokes, and I promise you they are not slow. They are in the 25 to 32 rwhp range, and up to a 17 inch rim.

thats where im like huh? how can a bike with 10-17 more more hp be considered a fair fight, i know those bikes are fast cuz xmr has a guy with a 70cc 2T that keeps up with everybody
unless the motors are the same then someone is going to have an advantage

[blackbird2xx]

That's what the classes are for. To try to keep it fair. I have a friend who has a ysr with a xr100 motor in it and it has the kitaco 145se kit in it and he can keep up with the 85cc 2t's. It can be done with the motor restrictions. It just takes tuning them. A stock yz80 motor only puts out about 22 or 23 rwhp, but can be tuned up to 32 hp. I have another friend who has a Honda 70 with a kitatco 124se kit and the dyno chart shows it to have 19rwhp. Now he is an engineer. There will always be a slight hp advantage given to the 2smokes in the race leagues, but the 4t's make up for it with their tourque. 25 to 29 hp it realistic out of a 4t 145. You just have to find it. The guy at semrra found it out of his mid bike.

[swheels]

ill be happy to just see S with a good running bike
mine should be adequate enough to spank the ysrs, unless their riders can ride the wheels off them
im more interested in vs a few open class pbs
mmm slicks, i just want the rear
i just mounted my brand new slick i got from dub, its sweet
waiting on the race head, gonna try to get it dynoed before the race, im hoping for 14-15 hp
the 18 will have a stock 160 Well your going to be very happy then. The bike ran flawless except for being over geared and the full synthetic 10 40wt oil.LOL I going with the same setup just changing the gearing and oil.Oh plus i got a 1/4 turn throttle on her now.So this should make it even easier for me to ride.:yup:
I'm in it just for the thrills. First thing is to make sure everybody is having fun. 2nd thing is to do my best and if i get the win then ok. I just wanna ride.LOL

[blackbird2xx]

I second that swheels lets everybody have funthumbsup2

[swheels]

Just for argument sakes i got a call fom one of the other racers tonight.He told me that one of the guys is bringing a ysr with a 85cc 2stroke to run with me.thumbsup2 Plus there will be another bike that was custom made by Phil Herrin there also racing.thumbsup2 He's the owner of the track and not to mention the Blitz and Herbert.So i will have my hands full.LOL which i don't mind because it's all about the level of fun. I hope to get some good video of the action.I'm sure it's gonna be some good racing.That's all i ever wanted.rock2

[swheels]

Let's get ready to RUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!

Can't wait to hit the track................

Put up a couple of clips me Herbert mixing it up.Well sorta.
On the far end through the tight twisties.I made a desperate pass on him.I came around from the outside and cut across him.He thought he was gonna run off in the in-field.So when he pick up from out of the turn clipped the back off my bike and broke off the front nose fairing on his bike.I guess he pulled over or something because the 150r got past him too.
Herb's bike just pull out of the corners like crazy........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtEY0MQsgOA
heres the 2nd clip he's missing the front.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDbQpWCU5_c

[Unproracer]

Hey the finals of the YRR/SMRRC are ending in MGKT. Looks like a sweet !#@^$ing track... Shortguyonamotard and i are thinking about trying to make it out there if were in any kinda points standing. End of the season kinda plans though. I've raced and had tons of kart track days but so far ive only really raced only one other xbike, and that was before any real mods! Im trying of rich guys passing me on there factory motards!! I WANNA RACE SOME XBIKES!!

Depending on when it is, and how far advance info i get id love to see if we could put something together for a track day at MGKT IF we make it out there. Maybe get a convy going and bring a few west coast riders to meet up on the east coast.

Would love to race some of you guys...see whos basement tech is more savy :)

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

looked good
ill prolly get passed in the straight and do well in the turns
kinda sux its raining, then again, let it rain now and not later

[blackbird2xx]

Hey swheels nice vidthumbsup2. How long are the straightaways there. I'm about to do an order, and want to get an idea for gearing purposes?

[RomanianRacer]

Are you gonna sell the dirty girl S? Or keep it for show and throw it in a trophy case. Asking because I read your going to motard later on planetminis.

[Unproracer]

Are you gonna sell the dirty girl S? Or keep it for show and throw it in a trophy case. Asking because I read your going to motard later on planetminis.

haha cats out the bag swheels eh!!


Hey what kinda classes do you guys race in with these monster engines? or are most of you guys just trackdays or running 140s in your race bikes?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

its whatever shows up really
hope you west coast guys can make it

[Unproracer]

its whatever shows up really
hope you west coast guys can make it

me too man, me too...

Though from browsing the forums, i think im in trouble w/ just a p&p, and exhaust on a stock 140! lol

[swheels]

Hey the finals of the YRR/SMRRC are ending in MGKT. Looks like a sweet !#@^ track... Shortguyonamotard and i are thinking about trying to make it out there if were in any kinda points standing. End of the season kinda plans though. I've raced and had tons of kart track days but so far ive only really raced only one other xbike, and that was before any real mods! Im trying of rich guys passing me on there factory motards!! I WANNA RACE SOME XBIKES!!

Depending on when it is, and how far advance info i get id love to see if we could put something together for a track day at MGKT IF we make it out there. Maybe get a convy going and bring a few west coast riders to meet up on the east coast.

Would love to race some of you guys...see whos basement tech is more savy :)Yep that's whats up right there! It would be the best time ever.Plus swapping info and things of that nature.One thing i'll say for sure,is you will know what everybody that race one these bikes had to start from.Not just throw money at the bikes but be creative and resilient.Battle of the Home brews.LOL

looked good
ill prolly get passed in the straight and do well in the turns
kinda sux its raining, then again, let it rain now and not laterNope iiiiii doubt it. How quick you can get on the gas coming out of the turns will be the determining factor.

Hey swheels nice vidthumbsup2. How long are the straightaways there. I'm about to do an order, and want to get an idea for gearing purposes?There's a thread around here with pics of the track and specs.Some that way you'll have the correct length.Cuz my guestimations are very on desirable.(Really suc!)

Are you gonna sell the dirty girl S? Or keep it for show and throw it in a trophy case. Asking because I read your going to motard later on planetminis.Pretty much will get stashed in the garage somewhere.Might get it for a sandyhook race since theres a lot of mids that race up there and for a race with blackbird2xx and unpro if we can make this happen.

haha cats out the bag swheels eh!!


Hey what kinda classes do you guys race in with these monster engines? or are most of you guys just trackdays or running 140s in your race bikes?Yeah,LOL theres a track less than 2hrs away from me but only motards.I'll go and practice with them every now and then.I do ok but i have to try to hard man.After awhile that gets real old.So it would be nice to learn the ways of the motards.That way i can race in there series.Besides look at how many show up to most race events.thumbsup2
Usually it's races for the mids but if not enough of them show to make the grid.Then the other bikes join in or we end up racing in there class.Last year the limit was 165cc which is what i'm running. Everybody wants to up it basically for the thrill and see who can hang on to them i guess. So what ever you can fit into it and ride it, go for it. You know the old saying big Hp deosn't necessarily translate into a win.thumbsup2

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

got the last parts on the bike, gotta do some safety wire and shes ready to race

[swheels]

got the last parts on the bike, gotta do some safety wire and shes ready to raceYeah that's what i'mma talkin bout.thumbsup2

Got my mini tire changer so i'm gonna mount up some slick on spare rims.Then go over everything button her and just wait til it's time to go. I'm gonna bring some tools but not much.The last time it looked like i was having a yard sale at the track.bluelaugh

[Unproracer]

Last year the limit was 165cc which is what i'm running. Everybody wants to up it basically for the thrill and see who can hang on to them i guess. So what ever you can fit into it and ride it, go for it. You know the old saying big Hp deosn't necessarily translate into a win.thumbsup2


Dont suppose it does. But if two fairly skilled riders find each other on the same track....the one with 20cc's more has a good chance of winning or holding position if theres any kinda straightaway.

Ill admit time trials on the 50cc x7 was a lot of fun. Dont know why poeple need full size dirt bike motors in there mini bikes.....

btw lol those full on motards are @%ing fast eh swheel?? lol. I had to get one too. Only way to even hope to keep up w/ my buddies racing..

[swheels]

Dont suppose it does. But if two fairly skilled riders find each other on the same track....the one with 20cc's more has a good chance of winning or holding position if theres any kinda straightaway.

Ill admit time trials on the 50cc x7 was a lot of fun. Dont know why poeple need full size dirt bike motors in there mini bikes.....

btw lol those full on motards are @%ing fast eh swheel?? lol. I had to get one too. Only way to even hope to keep up w/ my buddies racing.. yeah that is true.But i tend think that the rider with less will find away to make up for it.Maybe find faster lines charge the turns harder even get on the throttle earlier. I always think we are all potentially equals through the turns.Till ya find out otherwise......thinking_smilie

The riders on the tards look like they don't have a care in the world when they are riding.LOL No matter what the situation is.Plus the track that's close to me,that's all they race. I do real good when i'm running agianst them in practice.Just to much dang work!!!!!! I want to be comfortable too.LOL Being comfortable can easily translate into speed.thumbsup2

[FiveStarSky]

I want to be comfortable too.LOL Being comfortable can easily translate into speed.thumbsup2

yeah, less things you gotta think about besides the track makes it easier

[Unproracer]

yeah that is true.But i tend think that the rider with less will find away to make up for it. i like this concept thumbsup2Maybe find faster lines charge the turns harder even get on the throttle earlier. I always think we are all potentially equals through the turns.Till ya find out otherwise......thinking_smilie Yea, power wont likely save ya if the other guys faster in a turn. 1st hand exp. w/ that. thinking_smilie

The riders on the tards look like they don't have a care in the world when they are riding.LOL No matter what the situation is.Plus the track that's close to me,that's all they race. I do real good when i'm running agianst them in practice.Just to much dang work!!!!!! I want to be comfortable too.LOL Being comfortable can easily translate into speed.thumbsup2

Lol hate to brake it to you but im pretty sure if your racing mini motards, your gonna be still hanging off. Im only 5'11 and its still too much work for me to lift my foot far enough to navigate a sever lean angled turn. But yea, still less work then riding the piss out of a mini road bike.

Plus most motard guys ride like a huge ravenous pack of buttholes, its great to watch races. SHortguyonamotard went to the last race event w/ me. He got into 2nd, but couldnt pass this chick on a 150R(transponeders, tire warmers, support van, etc etc kinda mini racing chick) vs my buddies CR85 he just bought the weekend before.
She was taking up all the track trying to hold her position so on the 3rd to last turn before the finish, he JUMPED about 2-3 feet of the run off via the tall rumble strip, to get the lead and win. I almost punched him for not brining his camcorder. but yea...would never try that on a sport bike..

[RomanianRacer]

Ya, I know a few people that ride motard tracks here, there is actually 2 really close to me. I showed them my bike once and there like, wtf is that? Then I rode with my buddy whose got a old trail 50 and a neighbor with a pit bike.

Once I hit 18, get my motorcycle license and pick up a full size plated motard. I heard they are really fun and you can still hop on a dirt road once in a while, compared to riding a sport bike.

[swheels]

Lol hate to brake it to you but im pretty sure if your racing mini motards, your gonna be still hanging off. Im only 5'11 and its still too much work for me to lift my foot far enough to navigate a sever lean angled turn. But yea, still less work then riding the piss out of a mini road bike.

Plus most motard guys ride like a huge ravenous pack of buttholes, its great to watch races. SHortguyonamotard went to the last race event w/ me. He got into 2nd, but couldnt pass this chick on a 150R(transponeders, tire warmers, support van, etc etc kinda mini racing chick) vs my buddies CR85 he just bought the weekend before.
She was taking up all the track trying to hold her position so on the 3rd to last turn before the finish, he JUMPED about 2-3 feet of the run off via the tall rumble strip, to get the lead and win. I almost punched him for not brining his camcorder. but yea...would never try that on a sport bike..Some guys choose to hang off and some guys don't.So i tend to think it's a matter of preference.Checkout out motorheadmike's Moto video thread.You'll see most off the riders staying in the seat shifting their weight either forward or back,not really hangin off the sides.thumbsup2

[Unproracer]

Some guys choose to hang off and some guys don't.So i tend to think it's a matter of preference.Checkout out motorheadmike's Moto video thread.You'll see most off the riders staying in the seat shifting their weight either forward or back,not really hangin off the sides.thumbsup2

Heh, actually to me i see it as an issue of size. If i ride my buddies CR85, i foot out everything-everywhere, i cant help it. Same with my dirt bikes or my buddies full size motard. It feels right when your high enough up. On a mini motard, i try to put my foot out and up, but the bike is so small, when you lean it over you have to pretty much lift your leg 80degrees horizontal to your torso, up under the handle bar basicly. Its exhausting after a few turns if your not like 5'6... at least thats my opinion. I watch a lot of your mini races on the east coast youtube vids. It doesn't seem like foot out has caught on at all with the mini motard guys either?

[FiveStarSky]

hm... the motard guys i ran against, most of them would just put a knee out like they were on a track bike, but on occasion people would stick their boots out to try to keep people from sneaking up the inside on turns. I know i'm not a good foot-sticker-outer, i like to keep my feet on the pegs and on the shifter. it just feels more natural for me to hang off the seat and put a knee out. (maybe i just have not learned the proper technique) as i've never done motorcross or stuff like that.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i try to stay close to my bike and just ride, my knee kinda goes out but not for a 'feel where i am' reason
on a tard id be worried about breaking my ankle with the foot out thing

[FiveStarSky]

yeah, only time i ever stick a foot out on my ysr is when i'm doing super slow tight turns (and only because of how your basically pivioting around the back tire which is underneath your butt)

[Unproracer]

id be worried about breaking my ankle with the foot out thing

I have yet to see that happen, but they also wear dirtbike boots w/ slider heels so it works pretty well.

yeah, only time i ever stick a foot out on my ysr is when i'm doing super slow tight turns (and only because of how your basically pivioting around the back tire which is underneath your butt)

Its a aquire technique man. I think a lot of guys adapted it from motocross, but its very effective at being a feeler, a 'bit of a moment' saver, and comfortable at times. Feels a bit better when your trying to steer w/ the rear tire as well.

[swheels]

When i get to motard'in i'm gonna try a few styles to see what i like.When i rode my buds 450 kawi it felt natural to me but i was on dirt though.Leg out going around the turn handful of throttle.I know i wouldn't have rode like that on pavement.LOL

[Unproracer]

When i get to motard'in i'm gonna try a few styles to see what i like.When i rode my buds 450 kawi it felt natural to me but i was on dirt though.Leg out going around the turn handful of throttle.I know i wouldn't have rode like that on pavement.LOL

Thought that too at first, but it feels really natural on pavement too. Your going to get a full size motard? 250? 450? 625? decided yet? I rode a 2T CR85 last weekend that was a blast and had loads of power, size in between a mini and fullsize. perfect for kart tracks.