View Full Version : The Mid Bike Chronicles of A Mad Man
Shooter
09-28-2008, 05:22 PM
I like what I've been seeing of all of your progress so far Nutt......... just never quite knew what to say.
You can come over to my place and apply your skillz to my bike. dunno
Blitz$M.Inc.$
09-28-2008, 05:46 PM
is the ride height gonna be the same?
very slick btw
The Nutty Professor
09-29-2008, 08:07 AM
is the ride height gonna be the same?
very slick btw
The USD's are the exact same length as the X18 forks so I should be good. There's less static sag though.
Supercharged
09-29-2008, 08:08 AM
what about the width?
The Nutty Professor
09-29-2008, 08:17 AM
what about the width?
Wider than X18 but that is easy to fix with spacers. See the ones I have on the axle? But your X clamps will not work you have to buy the clamps that are made for the forks or have a set made. Now you can risk buying Pit Bike clamps and hope you measured everything out right and had good feedback from the seller.
The Nutty Professor
09-29-2008, 07:45 PM
Well this Brembo bracket was a little easier to build. I made a few mistakes but nothing major. I can actually rebuild it a lot faster. But I'll wait until I have the other side done before I rebuild anything.
Supercharged
09-29-2008, 07:46 PM
damn, those are some perdy upside downs
looks like a nice brake setup might be too good bows_smilie
rene13
09-29-2008, 09:19 PM
Nutty P what tires are you going to run, slicks or? and :phat:rock2
X7rocks
09-29-2008, 10:01 PM
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwesome
Blitz$M.Inc.$
09-30-2008, 03:12 AM
ya but can ya ride it? can ya can ya huh huh
im mildly jealous :D
when its done, a bottom line parts list for that mod would be nice, i kinda want to do it
The Nutty Professor
09-30-2008, 06:19 AM
Rene I'm going to learn to ride this baby with stock tires. Riding on junk (Boy that's a wide open shot bluelaugh) turned me into a better rider on better equipment. Let's see if that holds true with Mid's dunno
Blitz as soon as I'm finished with the right side brake I'll throw up a list. I want to make sure I add as much of what I used as possible. The hardest part is having all the right pieces and if you don't being able to make or find them local. Buying parts for something like this over the net (Except for the main big parts) is asking for trouble. I've already wasted a few bucks on parts that didn't fit or were to short Nutty-Rant
swheels
09-30-2008, 01:57 PM
She's lookin good.You know there isn't much time left.So you gotta get her ready soon so we can hit up 0ne these tracks.
dna316
09-30-2008, 02:24 PM
Yea a parts list would be great, i like and want to do that dual front brake mod to, i have been thinking of some ideas but dimensions and stuff would be nice, i can probably machine most of the parts just need dimensions.
The Nutty Professor
09-30-2008, 10:46 PM
She's lookin good.You know there isn't much time left.So you gotta get her ready soon so we can hit up 0ne these tracks.
Believe "S" I know. I at least have breaks on one side. Clip-on's and a shifter are all I need. The rest is gravy.
rene13
10-04-2008, 02:42 AM
Hey Nutty P, did that speedo come with other sensors or just that one in the picture?
The Nutty Professor
10-04-2008, 10:35 AM
Just the ones in the picture.
The Nutty Professor
10-05-2008, 08:27 PM
I'm trying to make this a short post. Ha imagine me saying that! The first photo is of the lower arm of the USD. Also look at the two bearings. The small one is the one that came on the bike and the other is a bearing I got from Ebay. It's a bicycle head bearing. Way better quality, bigger, and smoother. And yes it fit right in. The second photo is the lower USD fork leg again. It's after I removed some of the aluminum. I had to to fit the Brembo's with the adapter bracket. There's still a lot of metal there so I don't think it breaking is going to be a problem.
The Nutty Professor
10-06-2008, 04:50 PM
So far this has been going somewhat smoothly. I was able to duplicate the same mount on both sides and come fairly close. The thickness of the aluminum I had to use meant I had to use spacers in certain places but it's there finally. The last piece in the puzzle will be a banjo bolt that allows me to stack two brake lines. I have a few but the thread pattern pitch isn't fine enough. It's not done but it works so far.
swheels
10-06-2008, 05:34 PM
Very Nice.thumbsup2thumbsup2thumbsup2thumbsup2
rene13
10-06-2008, 06:52 PM
If your stacking them at the master this should be for your master http://www.yoyodyneti.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=06.2228.22
It saves you some trouble.
The Nutty Professor
10-06-2008, 08:19 PM
I was thinking about what 125cc said about using dual brake lines on a dual setup. With two lines you can end up with a mess. 125cc also mentioned a t-section but I wanted something that would be a little easier to mount. A "T" would be easier to cut but then the mounting section of "Meat" wouldn't be there. Hell I might end up with a "T" but this is what I drew up after a little bite of thinkin'. All you would need is a piece of aluminum that's thick enough, the right size tap. This idea should allow you to use what ever size banjo bolt you want to as long and you have the right bit and tap. What do you guys think?thinking_smilie
swheels
10-07-2008, 12:57 AM
It's a good idea.I just think by the time you cut drill and tap.You go the auto part store find the screw the right length and pitch.Drill it your done.I got the screws i needed from the auto part store.
As long as it seals properly it will work though.Or look on ebay for the T.I'm pretty sure you'll find some on there.thumbsup2
Niusiic[latvia]
10-07-2008, 05:30 AM
nice nutty p!
X-18_Banshee
10-07-2008, 06:15 AM
Where do you get the small Brembo calipers???
The Nutty Professor
10-07-2008, 06:40 AM
It's a good idea.I just think by the time you cut drill and tap.You go the auto part store find the screw the right length and pitch.Drill it your done.I got the screws i needed from the auto part store.
As long as it seals properly it will work though.Or look on ebay for the T.I'm pretty sure you'll find some on there.thumbsup2
Yeah "S" I was thinking the same about just finding the T. But the idea was for builders who wanted clean lines. The part could be anodized, painted, engraved, or a combination. Actually the idea could be made in any shape. Rene could do the Captain America shield and someone else could do the Superman symbol. dunno
relaxednoma
10-08-2008, 11:20 AM
WOW! love the bike. I have some header wrap leftover from my sonoma when I wrapped them, I think I'll do the same! love the brakes!
The Nutty Professor
10-11-2008, 08:02 PM
Well it was another drop back and punt day. I was going to make a part for my brake system but after 2 hours trying to get it done I dug through my buddies trashed parts and found a 1:1 part and made it work it 15 minutes. It took another 1-2 hours to get the brakes bleed out the way I like but it's done and it's done right. I hope to improve the hydro clutch next but I'll leave it for now and fix what I have to to get TN in fighting shape. Pictures at 11. cowboy
dna316
10-11-2008, 08:17 PM
I was thinking about what 125cc said about using dual brake lines on a dual setup. With two lines you can end up with a mess. 125cc also mentioned a t-section but I wanted something that would be a little easier to mount. A "T" would be easier to cut but then the mounting section of "Meat" wouldn't be there. Hell I might end up with a "T" but this is what I drew up after a little bite of thinkin'. All you would need is a piece of aluminum that's thick enough, the right size tap. This idea should allow you to use what ever size banjo bolt you want to as long and you have the right bit and tap. What do you guys think?thinking_smilie
hey np. i might be able to help you out with that ''y splitter'' you drew up. i use 6061 grade aluminum at work so it will withstand the pressure, and i understand the design. i thought about it when 125 mentioned it sometime ago. if you get me the dimensions i can probably come up with something for you.... worth a try.
The Nutty Professor
10-12-2008, 08:12 AM
Thanks but I got what I need for a race bike. In the end what I drew up was more for the guys trying to keep clean lines on their bike and not have a mess of brake lines snaking everywhere, which is what you get with dual lines coming off one master cylinder.
The Nutty Professor
10-13-2008, 06:29 PM
Well it's way pass the right day at 11 but here's the latest modifications.
X7rocks
10-13-2008, 07:24 PM
so nutty is it made to look pretty or race :)
The Nutty Professor
10-13-2008, 07:31 PM
I don't know maybe when you're looking at TN's butt that'll answer your question moon1
X7rocks
10-13-2008, 09:34 PM
hahaha looking forward to the future of meeting you at a track and raceing with ya
Niusiic[latvia]
10-14-2008, 04:17 AM
whats that little thing is??
The Nutty Professor
10-14-2008, 07:50 AM
;25741']whats that little thing is??
It's a brake line splitter. It allows you to go from one brake line off the master cylinder to two lines one to each caliper. Using one into two also keeps the pressure down in the system. I think two lines running off the master cylinder would be damn near un-rideable.
doubleu82
10-14-2008, 07:52 AM
Where'd you get it. I'm waiting on a double banjo bolt to be shipped to me, but I'd much rather use the splitter.
Niusiic[latvia]
10-14-2008, 07:55 AM
It's a brake line splitter. It allows you to go from one brake line off the master cylinder to two lines one to each caliper. Using one into two also keeps the pressure down in the system. I think two lines running off the master cylinder would be damn near un-rideable.
thanks for info :)
Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-14-2008, 02:16 PM
I don't know maybe when you're looking at TN's butt that'll answer your question moon1
ah ha
i wanted the nicest bike that can still race
i really like those usd's
nice macgyver on the splitter, now ziptie the lines
Hitt99
10-14-2008, 03:46 PM
I have been reading all the post on dual front brakes. So I went and looked at my 07 GSXR 750 and it has the double banjo bolt on the right caliper and the line runs to the left caliper. And the line comes from the master cyclinder to the right caliper. Why would the same not work on the midbikes?
Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-14-2008, 04:27 PM
it does and thats how mine is, and its very effective
The Nutty Professor
10-14-2008, 07:57 PM
Where'd you get it. I'm waiting on a double banjo bolt to be shipped to me, but I'd much rather use the splitter.
Dub I dug through a pile of greasy, dirty, gunked up parts to pull that prize back into the light. What bike is it from? I have no idea?
I have been reading all the post on dual front brakes. So I went and looked at my 07 GSXR 750 and it has the double banjo bolt on the right caliper and the line runs to the left caliper. And the line comes from the master cyclinder to the right caliper. Why would the same not work on the midbikes?
Yes it works very well like Blitz said but my Brembo radial's have a very large brake pad area compared to stock. If I used the complete force of both calipers I think the brakes would make the bike a tuck machine. I like the idea of having more than you'll ever need meaning the brakes. I makes life easier when you're trying to out brake someone.
stuntnx7
10-14-2008, 08:15 PM
Thanks but I got what I need for a race bike. In the end what I drew up was more for the guys trying to keep clean lines on their bike and not have a mess of brake lines snaking everywhere, which is what you get with dual lines coming off one master cylinder.
banghead you think that splitter looks or works better than 2 lines from the master bluelaugh
stuntnx7
10-14-2008, 08:18 PM
I think two lines running off the master cylinder would be damn near un-rideable.
ummm wrong again banghead
The Nutty Professor
10-14-2008, 08:21 PM
ummm wrong again banghead
Dude I mean MY bike. You haven't been in my garage testing the system like I have. I've raced cars and bikes. The brakes are over the top. But I like it moon1
stuntnx7
10-14-2008, 08:26 PM
Dude I mean MY bike. You haven't been in my garage testing the system like I have. I've raced cars and bikes. The brakes are over the top. But I like it moon1
thumbsup2 if you say so
The Nutty Professor
10-14-2008, 08:34 PM
It's cool Stuntn bro thumbsup2 If my single setup proves to be "just" enough I've already got the parts set to go in another direction.
Blitz$M.Inc.$
10-14-2008, 08:48 PM
man if you give it half the force, well, you see what happened to me
and your front end will collapse so much nicer than mine did
so be careful, well you know, cant wait to compete against another x besides 12 and 18
The Nutty Professor
10-19-2008, 07:25 AM
OK stock tires suck cheese speechless33 What does that mean? Yes I got a ride in. The Molkt carb is a piece of hazardous waste but it got the job done. The forks are valved all wrong but I'll live with it for now and the shifter is to short. I used a turned around Pit Bike shifter and sheeez! I spent 15 minutes last night welding it because the spring section kept flipping it away. Not only was it too short it was moving too angry_red OK now I know...I used to hold me body on the bike using the gas tank. Ain't enough arse in the plastic to hold that much weight. Broke one of the tabs because I shifted back and grabbed the tank with my leg and it snapped off. Then I was riding using my arms only. I have a fix but that's got to wait too. I could go on and on analysising the ride but The Nutt will leave you with that. Oh I rode with out bodywork...had to the clip-ons ain't fitted right so I had no room for bodywork dunno
The Nutty Professor
11-29-2008, 07:44 AM
OK stock tires suck cheese What does that mean? Yes I got a ride in. The Molkt carb is a piece of hazardous waste but it got the job done. The forks are valved all wrong but I'll live with it for now and the shifter is to short. I used a turned around Pit Bike shifter and sheeez! I spent 15 minutes last night welding it because the spring section kept flipping it away. Not only was it too short it was moving too OK now I know...I used to hold me body on the bike using the gas tank. Ain't enough arse in the plastic to hold that much weight. Broke one of the tabs because I shifted back and grabbed the tank with my leg and it snapped off. Then I was riding using my arms only. I have a fix but that's got to wait too. I could go on and on analysizing the ride but The Nutt will leave you with that. Oh I rode with out bodywork...had to the clip-ons ain't fitted right so I had no room for bodywork
Now to further my last rant. Stock tire suck cheese until you use Shifter Kart chemical warfare on them. Then they soften up so much your hand sticks to the tire, even when it's cold speechless33 The special sauce only goes so deep into the tire so it a constant battle. I'll stick to the slick...that is when they get here. Thanks to my brother from another mother I have a kick arse carb to replace that abomination that YX called a carb. Keihin for life. I've bought nothing but Honda bikes, ok I've owned others but those were always given to me, and they all use Keihin. The one great thing about Keihin is once you dial it in you never have to look at it again except maybe to clean it because you let it sit. They're also pretty easy to adjust. You know what you need to make it right even with a guess. The bad part is finding the parts to fix it or make it right. Unless you know which bike that carb comes stock on or you have someone who can order Sudco near you it can be a pain. Mikuni is a dime a (or 3) dozen. I've re-valved the forks and played with the fluid but I don't have enough ride time on it to tell. Right now it seems dead on. The shifter hhmmm...I lengthen it and rode it and found out I made it to long so I cut and welded it again and it was still to long and not in the right place open up vise her she comes. I whacked and smacked on that lever just knowing it was going to break at my weld. NOPE rock2 Now it looks and feels like it right. The clipons are right now but due to the crashability of the ride the bodywork stays off for now. Every crash I've had except for the full throttle one at Elgin has been the front end tucking. And she tucks fast with no warning. Tucking when she's moving at a good pace has stopped and I think that's due to playing with the tires, but at a slower pace with less force on the tire she's a tucking queen. Once or twice I was able to jerk it back up but that wasn't skill it was damn dumb luck. I need to cut and re-weld the steering tube but I don't have the tools to cut it right. I've sat and looked at it up, down, and sideways and I know what I need so I try to get to Harbor Frieght and scope it out. What I need is a high speed metal saw. I have a sawall but it ain't getting in the tight spots this little diddy should. Then gussets and gorilla welds will be the order of the day. I haven't given up on the X22 I just can't get it right and ride all the time like I want. If I can make it a side project then I think I can turn into it into a sweet ride. The damn things built like a brick. The problem is it rides like it too?
relaxednoma
11-29-2008, 09:28 AM
man, the more and more i read and watch videos on the tube, I'm waiting for the chance to take mine out to the track for some laps, nothing full bore go mode, but just to go.
swheels
11-29-2008, 09:52 AM
I know you'll get it.thumbsup2 That's what it's all about.Feel free to play around with the jets in the carb.Right now one of my homemade jets is in there.
I gotta tell ya i'm still thinking about the usd's.But i think i got my forks the way i need them.So it's kinda hard for me to go to something else.Unless i know for a fact that they will out perform my modded ones.thinking_smilie
I'm know by the time the 09 season gets started you will be ready.thumbsup2
swheels
11-29-2008, 09:58 AM
man, the more and more i read and watch videos on the tube, I'm waiting for the chance to take mine out to the track for some laps, nothing full bore go mode, but just to go.Just be prepared to get hooked.I don't know what doing drugs feel like but if it's anything like racing these mids.Then i'm glad i never tried them.bluelaugh
Supercharged
11-29-2008, 10:40 AM
Just be prepared to get hooked.I don't know what doing drugs feel like but if it's anything like racing these mids.Then i'm glad i never tried them.bluelaugh
words of wisdom, drugs have no chance in comparison to these bikes....every factor of these bikes out weighs drugs. wave_finger
also gas is cheaper than any drug, and once drugs are used there gone....atleast with our bikes we have the fun factor of hours and hours of madness, as long as we got gas. cowboy
The Nutty Professor
11-29-2008, 09:58 PM
Now I got a damper I'll see how I want to install it. That should take care of the head shake.
The Nutty Professor
06-15-2010, 07:32 AM
Guys I'm only bumping this up because it will make it easier for me to find. Lately there have been a lot of guys asking question about the bike so I send them links to this. Sorry for the trouble :dunno:
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