She still ain't pretty.

[swheels]

I had to start a new thread because the first one couldn't be opened.The mods can merge the 2 threads together when the site is fully up and running.

Well i got the linkage done and i REALLY like it better than the one on my x18.:bananar: It was much easier for me to do on the x15 than the x18.

Right now i got the a 350lbs rated spring on and the rear end is stiff!So i'd say i got lucky on that.The bike is definitly higher in the rear the stock.Like on my x18 the rear can be raised or lowered.
Later i will put of a video of the linkage system working. Best part is i only had to weld one bracket on.So if i don't like it(which i highly doubt) I can un-bolt it and put it back to stock. I more pics to upload from my camera.

[Monster_Bike1780]

that looks really good, keep it up man

[swheels]

Ok here's some pics of the linkage setup on the chassis already.

Hey Blackbirdxx2 the shock i have on the chassis now is 5 way adjustable and is real cool.

As far as the motor i got a brandnew motor for it.If i get this bike to handle better than my x18.Then i will do some work to my new motor and eventually put it in this bike. I'm really hoping i can get this thing better the my current bike.I have a good feeling about it some far.

[Unproracer]

NICE! How did it feel when you did the bike sit? Cause i know you did a bike sit...

[swheels]

NICE! How did it feel when you did the bike sit? Cause i know you did a bike sit...bluelaugh Yes i did. I was totally surprised too.I didn't even have any tension on the spring.I only tightened the collar on the shock spring just enough. It was very firm almost as much on my x18.Of course things are gonna change once i drop the motor in it.I don't think it should be a dramatic change.
I'm gonna make a short vid in a few minutes.

[shaq93]

that looks really good s, is that another mountain bike shock?

[swheels]

Thanks...Yes it's another MTB shock.

I'm uploading a demo vid.DAM photobucket is slow!
Here's some pics with the complete x5 fairings just mocked up on the chassis.I'm thinking of just putting on the x5 fairings instead of mixing and matching.Then having to do a custom belly pan.:dunno:
http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t74/s2wheels/?action=view&current=100_2271.flv

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

lol mbn nation
the x5 is pretty unique to use as a body, i never even seen one
so is there a bracket welded to the frame forward of the swing pivot? connecting the swing to the frame?

[swheels]

lol mbn nation
the x5 is pretty unique to use as a body, i never even seen one
so is there a bracket welded to the frame forward of the swing pivot? connecting the swing to the frame? Yeah tryin to big yall up!bluelaugh

Yes,there's a bracket welded to the frame that connects the dogbone.That bracket is what i really wanted to make a bolt on.But i would have had to drill some holes anyway.So i went with the welding process.The bracket wouldn't be in the way if a disassemble and went to stock setup.

[The Nutty Professor]

FRIGGIN YES! The light bulb has finally went off! I get it bluelaugh There's only one thing I need now and that's measurements? And the dog-bone looks pre-fab were did you get it and how long is it...again measurements. I have lighter Noleen springs that fit my shock a hell of a lot better than then 1500lbs OEM spring I have on there. Since I have to take the motor out again banghead it's the perfect time to put the linkage together. I'm pumped for this one. Going out on a long ride on the PW today to get away from the psycho I'm married too so I'll be riding and thinking Mid's.

[swheels]

FRIGGIN YES! The light bulb has finally went off! I get it bluelaugh There's only one thing I need now and that's measurements? And the dog-bone looks pre-fab were did you get it and how long is it...again measurements. I have lighter Noleen springs that fit my shock a hell of a lot better than then 1500lbs OEM spring I have on there. Since I have to take the motor out again banghead it's the perfect time to put the linkage together. I'm pumped for this one. Going out on a long ride on the PW today to get away from the psycho I'm married too so I'll be riding and thinking Mid's.Man i knew you'd get once it was all in place.bluelaugh A very simple setup indeed.thumbsup2 On the newer x15 chassis this system can be a total bolt on.Because the newer chassis has just the a tube.Where i welded up the bracket,you can just make some mounts for the dogbone that clamps on to that tube. I'll take more pics to show the measurements.Hell i'll make templates and mail them to you.
Yes the dog bone is a pre-fab,it's from my 1st gen x7.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

bluelaugh
well dang
what happened to the k2?

[The Nutty Professor]

Oh I have the K2 that puppy is part of this deal. I think it will work a hell of a lot better with the linkage and there will be less stress on it. I wonder if Fancy Scooter has that part?

[swheels]

Oh I have the K2 that puppy is part of this deal. I think it will work a hell of a lot better with the linkage and there will be less stress on it. I wonder if Fancy Scooter has that part?Man it would be great if they did! I'd pick up another,although i think some of the older or 1st gen dirtbikes with the uni link suspension might be made to fit.I don't know which ones though.:dunno:

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

make an adjustable one 0--+--0

[The Nutty Professor]

Man it would be great if they did! I'd pick up another,although i think some of the older or 1st gen dirtbikes with the uni link suspension might be made to fit.I don't know which ones though.:dunno:

Well I tried to find the parts but so far I can't find them on Fancy Scooter. I have the aluminum set aside already. As a matter of fact I had it packaged up to send to you because like I said I was clueless. Now that I've got it all I have to do is cut the parts. I'm going to see if I can out a brass or copper sleeve inside the holes as plain bearings. It looks like that's what's inside the dog-bone you have already?

[swheels]

Well I tried to find the parts but so far I can't find them on Fancy Scooter. I have the aluminum set aside already. As a matter of fact I had it packaged up to send to you because like I said I was clueless. Now that I've got it all I have to do is cut the parts. I'm going to see if I can out a brass or copper sleeve inside the holes as plain bearings. It looks like that's what's inside the dog-bone you have already?Yep that's what in there.
On that note i'm definitly going with the x5 fairings.It will be much easier to deal with besides they don't look to bad.I'm also thinking i might have to drop down to a 300lbs rated spring or a 200lbs.That 350lbs rated spring is very stiff!
I got the top shock mount bracket done and all mounted up.I just gotta put the finishing touches on the brackets.

Will upload some new pics.

[swheels]

make an adjustable one 0--+--0The screw would eventually get yanked out.

Here's how the bikes looks as of now.I'm gonna do some more cutting on the chassis maybe tonight.I also gotta clean up some welds and make the top shock mount bracket look more presentable.I think i will go with the redbull race bike scheme.thinking_smilie

A short vid of the linkage setup working

http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t74/s2wheels/?action=view&current=100_2271.flv

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

tierod end bolts deal with the stress of a front car wheel turning force, it should handle a bike suspension

[boogerboy722]

tierod end bolts deal with the stress of a front car wheel turning force, it should handle a bike suspension

heim*(sp) joints

or look here http://www.mcmaster.com/#rod-ends

edit: holy hell, you have a shitload of pocketbike stuff

[swheels]

tierod end bolts deal with the stress of a front car wheel turning force, it should handle a bike suspension The ones from the autos will have some good weight to them.Plus it's a ball and socket setup so that might cause the dogbone linkage to move in some weird directions vs the up and down. I even looked at the pocket quad setup cause they're tie rod ends are much smaller.It has to be something solid,besides once you get your the ride height desired.You really won't be changing the ride height often.If so to un-bolt and bolt in another dogbone arm can be done in under 5mins.

[swheels]

heim*(sp) joints

or look here http://www.mcmaster.com/#rod-ends

edit: holy hell, you have a shitload of pocketbike stuffThey have those at some hardware stores. It's a good idea in thoery i just don't wanna take that chance in the bolts getting yanked out. The clevis ones look like they'd be better but i believe i'd need a nice heavy duty one.By that time the weight of it will come into factor for me.I'm cutting of peices of the chassis that's not need.So i can get the weight down as much as possible.

[boogerboy722]

im pretty sure that anything thicker than like 3/8ths inch as far as the "body" goes is strong enough.

[swheels]

im pretty sure that anything thicker than like 3/8ths inch as far as the "body" goes is strong enough.I'm concerned about the thread section of the body and the clevis,not the body itself.Besides these bike when your racing them can give 1500lbs rated springs fits.So that right there says alot to me.:yup: I think if your cruiz'in on your bike,probably would be ok to try.If a suspension component like this goes unexpectly in a race.The chances of you saving it from a crash is very very minimal.

[The Nutty Professor]

Looking good! And with all the advances you made with the X18 I can't help but think this one is going to totally stomp!

[swheels]

I really hope so....Because i really like to be comfortable with the bike.If it turns out it feels better to ride,then i'll be all set i can go from there.If it feels real weird to me then i know i will have problems trying to adjust most likely.Then i really wouldn't want to use it then it will end up parked next to the junk pile.LOL

[swheels]

Well guys i've wrestled with this for sometime now.I always try to put what i think would be the best gain in performance track wise.So i'm gonna hold off on the 12inch rims and go with the fuel injection system.Somehow my gut feeling is telling me i will benefit more from the EFI than the bigger wheels.I am a huge fan of EFI and i love the possibilities.thumbsup2 I will benefit more from being able to change the torque and power curves to suit my needs at different tracks. It's a huge leap of faith but if it pays off like i think it will.It will be the best bet i need for performance gains.thumbsup2

[Monster_Bike1780]

Well guys i've wrestled with this for sometime now.I always try to put what i think would be the best gain in performance track wise.So i'm gonna hold off on the 12inch rims and go with the fuel injection system.Somehow my gut feeling is telling me i will benefit more from the EFI than the bigger wheels.I am a huge fan of EFI and i love the possibilities.thumbsup2 I will benefit more from being able to change the torque and power curves to suit my needs at different tracks. It's a huge leap of faith but if it pays off like i think it will.It will be the best bet i need for performance gains.thumbsup2

sounds pretty damn beasty

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

dang go balla
what is the price range on that type of thing?
one of these years im gonna get the turbo on the 160 block

[swheels]

dang go balla
what is the price range on that type of thing?
one of these years im gonna get the turbo on the 160 blockNah no balla here just lookin for better gains.LOL $449.00 beans plus shipping. It keeps calling me and this time i'm not gonna back out.LOL It's do or die!

[swheels]

Ok ladies and gentlemen it's a done deal! Fuel injected xbike/midbike. I still will put in my 146cc motor on this build it will be fuel injected.Till i get the bike where i need it to be as far as handling goes. So now i wait for me package.:bananar:

[boogerboy722]

**** yeah, fi.

gogo wideband+laptop on a midbike lol.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

gl, how will it be powered?

[swheels]

Well my 146cc still has the stock flywheel and magneto so i'll be good there.Of course i'll have put in a battery which i have one thats smaller than the stock batteries that come in these bikes. Then when the bike's ready for the 180cc motor after i mod it up a bit.I'll swap out motors and leave the ork on the 180cc.

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

ya im sure you got a 12v pack from the rc days

[boogerboy722]

the fi system is MAP based correct?

[swheels]

**** yeah, fi.

gogo wideband+laptop on a midbike lol. yeah it should be pretty good.....I was assured that i would have no problems plus i'll be able to change the power curve,change the rev limiter or cut it off and retard the timing or fuel delivery shut off.So from judging from how th owner explained it to me.It's fairly simple to operate and there will be parts support.(which i was worried about too)Plus they make another ecu which is a full all out programable version which cost another 400.00 just for the ecu but's that's waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy down the road. I gotta see how i work this one.thumbsup2

[boogerboy722]

so its got the ability to control timing too? even better.

[shaq93]

That's awesome with the fuel injection. I heard that the government is try to get rid of carbs now?

[The Nutty Professor]

They would have a hard time getting rid of them. I think they're trying to make it cheaper to just put the system in. Meaning you get tax credit for having it. Both the manufacturer and the buyer.

[shaq93]

what has been done to the bike recently?

[shaq93]

i havent seen s on here in a while, wats up with you man?

[Blitz$M.Inc.$]

i had a thought today...(imagine that lol)
what if, you took the clipons off and lowered the forks an inch, then put the clipons back on but on top
that would lower the front while maintaining the same grip height
i cant do it with my maxxis but a veerub slick would
not sure if its good or not cuz then peg height might be an issue too
ok well nvm :biggrin: <----fake ass big grin, where is my green one with the teeth?

[swheels]

what has been done to the bike recently?Done nothing to any of the bikes but mostly walk past them.LOL I got distracted bigtime. I started building another rc bike. It was coming out so good my attention shifted rather quickly to it. Besides reality hit ME, My garage is FCKING MESS! I need to clean this crap up,out and whatever else! So i'm pretty sure i'm not gonna build another bike probably till i get this garage clean.Then i might not build another cuase i don't seem to use them as much anymore.
i had a thought today...(imagine that lol)
what if, you took the clipons off and lowered the forks an inch, then put the clipons back on but on top
that would lower the front while maintaining the same grip height
i cant do it with my maxxis but a veerub slick would
not sure if its good or not cuz then peg height might be an issue too
ok well nvm :biggrin: <----fake ass big grin, where is my green one with the teeth? That has crossed my mind but the x15's sit so low already.

[stuntnx7]

i had a thought today...(imagine that lol)
what if, you took the clipons off and lowered the forks an inch, then put the clipons back on but on top
that would lower the front while maintaining the same grip height
i cant do it with my maxxis but a veerub slick would
not sure if its good or not cuz then peg height might be an issue too
ok well nvm :biggrin: <----fake ass big grin, where is my green one with the teeth?


you could do that and you dont even have to have the whole "clip on" holding onto the fork tube. Just bring it up enough for the half the "clip on" to hold on to