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swheels
08-29-2007, 12:47 PM
I've had great success with the dual conversion.I thought i would share.I used 2 X6 front brake calipers.1 because there easy to swap left to right 2 because there full floating calipers.I also used the x18 rear disc for the fronts because there are way bigger and have more contact surface.The rear brake rotor bolt right up to the front rim.
Well the way i did this setup is i made a banjo bolt that could fit 2 brake lines.So i ran the 1 brake line fromt the master cylinder(like normal)to the rightside caliper.Then ran another brake line from the rightside caliper to the leftside caliper.I made the banjo bolt from a regular grade 8.8 bolt.You can use a cordless drill to do this.The down side is you would have to purchase a set of fork legs to run the duals.But the amount of braking power you will gain would be priceless.With just using the 2 finger technique i can do stoppies.It scares the crap out of me plus the back shock takes a beating.So i don't do them much but i'll try to post up a vid as soon as i can.BTW these are some old pics.Since then i have made the brackets to complete this setup.The bikes lookin a little ratty these days.But soon she'll be getting a make over.LOL
The Nutty Professor
08-29-2007, 04:24 PM
I can see you are bringing on the info to the new homestead. I'm slowly picking up the old tire thread and putting it down here. I have a question have you seen any high performance brake pads for the stock calipers? If not I will definitely go to the Brembo's. I can't decide on the sinlge piston or the twin radials. The twins seem like over kill but I like thatboxing.
swheels
08-29-2007, 04:49 PM
Yeah the swingarm is stock.I just did a mock up of what it would look like if i decided to enclose it.Just 2 screws hold it on and to my suprise no rattling noises.
Hglenn i would go with the twinns.You'd just have to make up a bracket no biggy though.As soon as i get my motor situation straighten out.I'll start shopping for goodies.
Yeah i was thinking of bringing over more of the mods.But i suck at explaining things.So i'll do it over time.
X7rocks
08-29-2007, 05:11 PM
=D
you.got.a.lifan!
swheels
08-29-2007, 06:22 PM
=D
you.got.a.lifan!Yeah i got lifan 138cc.It ran better when the cam bearing was about to go.It's got be out of time or floating a valve or something.i'M seriously thinking of droppin the 4stroker and putting in a 2 stroker.Cuase by the time i drop a 146cc BB then with the big valve head.Plus the price of the motor.That's the price of a watercooled 2 stroker(used of course) that will kill the 146cc.Plus a 5speed gear box is souding real good to me.Gotta do some real soul searching now.LOL
The Nutty Professor
08-29-2007, 08:15 PM
Edwin sorry I missed your call. I know you're frustrated because I could hear it in your voicebanghead. But what you need to look at is are you going to stay in parking lots or race on the track? I know the answer to that but I want you to tell yourself. If you go to 2 smokes you'll have to look at what displacement you want to go with because I don't think you'll find a class to compete in if you drop in a 125. That is unless you want to race other 125's like Honda's and Yamaha's. With the development they have I don't think it would be pretty. 4 strokes at our level are just beginning. Even the 250 GP's and the 125's are going to 4 stroke by 2010 or 2011. What's got you so tied in knots? I know you think you're dropping money into this to make it faster...that's the game called racing. I also think it will become harder to find cheap go-fast parts for 2 smokes as time goes on if there are any to begin with (Cheap that is). I'm always looking at the 2 smokes but the reliability factory is a question too. If you get your tuning wrong with a 4 strong it runs bad and you come in off the track and fiddle with it. If a 2 smoke is bad there's a good chance you'll seize it then you have to buy a new piston and have the cylinder bored. What's the best value for you money? You're going to spend money on both, but for maintennance I think the 4 stroke is still the answer. Just my opinion.
swheels
09-01-2007, 08:44 AM
I know i didn't give a real good diagram of the setup.But here's a diagram from the mad docter.This is how minds is setup.
Here's another option.Useing the brass T's.If done this way you will not have to drill anything.Just cut some lines and use small hose clamps.
The Nutty Professor
09-01-2007, 08:48 AM
The Mad Doctor at his finestmotorbike.rock
swheels
09-01-2007, 05:43 PM
Dude i came across a site that had after market brake pads.Give me some time.I'll try to dig it up.
swheels
01-06-2009, 12:40 PM
I brought this thread back to show another way of doing duals.This setup is from Thelog32.So this credit goes out to him.
I think this way is a lot easier,so for the people a little less crafty or wanna take a short cut.(Don't take what i'm saying the wrong way to anyone!)
Now i have no experience with this setup.But it did work and was affective.
Dam i wish i could get this guy back out on a track now.LOL I still keep in touch with him every now and then.
Blitz$M.Inc.$
01-06-2009, 02:12 PM
i think the way ours is S is better
and its not like its a lot less work his way either
only difference is you made brackets for your calipers while i just cut a piece off and drilled a new mount hole
all three of us had to make the dual banjo which was the hardest part of the whole job
and since we used better calipers, our are better :)
swheels
01-06-2009, 03:22 PM
I agree,i just figured that if theirs anybody that wants to do the setup without the cutting and making plates.This is the alternate route where all they would have to make is the banjo bolt.Or split the line off of the master cylinder.That way they can purchase a banjo bolt that accepts dual brake lines
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